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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying bist has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army if the

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game is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening fade to black

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bespoke radio for

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the masses

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yeah man how you doing how you doing

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today is wednesday november 18

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2020. let's do this

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man

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323 days into the new year only 43 days

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getting close we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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downtown burbank california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tither to and fro back and

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forth up and down

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east and west north and south far and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kgra the planet

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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i lost my pen i'll grab another one

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all right how you doing let's do this

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tonight very special guest stephen

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stephen bassett is here live from

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washington dc

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we're going to be talking about the new

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as we move through 2021

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get ready kids stephen bassett is here

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tomorrow night

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is another fader night with open lines

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night long and i already know what's

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tomorrow night on the show i've got

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one of the coolest announcements that

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we're gonna do tomorrow night and i said

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we because somebody's gonna be here

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doing it with me

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if i have got a bucket list and i think

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i think we even privately you may not

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or discuss it with but you've got a

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okay all right you've been building on

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that since you were a kid

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one thing that has could do

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definitely be checked off the bucket

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yeah man you know what and this is the

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everybody listening to my voice tomorrow

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night for this announcement

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what yeah yeah

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that tomorrow night fader night

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and uh there you go all right so steven

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bassett is here tomorrow night's fader

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night

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and uh let's get all the other stuff out

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uh television network it is forbidden

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and i know that i don't know all of them

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specifically like a list

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but uh he is now on the video on demand

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platforms and you can go find it there

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at forbidden knowledge uh tv um

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all of the vod stuff is there as well

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he's got a new book coming out that

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we're getting ready to announce and i

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uh to his new book and so we'll be doing

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and he's got a new documentary uh that

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see a buckethead gift follow me

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right there look at these gifts you guys

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you guys are the best all right let's uh

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to the breaking news this is pretty

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god and that is nuts

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let's get this show cracking happy

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birthday to the one and only

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owen wilson owen wilson today 52 of

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course star of zoolander

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meet the parents rushmore the royal

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epps today is 50. he was really good

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what was that movie called troop zero

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you remember that movie i highly

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recommended it my caps today is 50.

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oscar oscar new nunez

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oscar oscar nunez today is 63.

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he played father doug in people of earth

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original scorpions drummer herman

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today 71 years old metallica guitarist

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kirk hammett today is 58 and

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rock god bassist rudy sarzo

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our dead guy's birthday today check this

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al divoren 1923 to 2004 died at the age

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al was the musical director

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the king elvis presley

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that's right al was the voice behind

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elvis has left the building thank you

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don't forget those elvis souvenirs in

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living

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loving color a wonderful memento of this

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evening's concert you'll long cherish

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when the

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sounds of music long cast into the night

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al devoran absolutely incredible happy

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birthday al

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the world's

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it was mind-blowing i was in panama i

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got the news

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a couple of days late and

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i didn't get it from the news on tv i

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think i got it from the miami herald in

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a newspaper

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but uh people's temple founder jim jones

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leans and leads 909 of his followers in

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a mass murder suicide at their community

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in guyana

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a third of those who perished were

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children

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and i was just a kid you know i was like

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14 years old

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and i was reading that in the paper and

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i didn't even know where guyana was i

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don't think most people did at the time

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had to look for it on a map because they

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said it was in south america and the

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tournament wasn't that far from panama

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but uh i'll just never forget that day

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on this day in 1978

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fader fact the world's

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tallest tree it's called hyperion

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is over 380 feet tall

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it was discovered in 2006 in

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california's redwood national park

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but to prevent damage and sightseeing

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its exact location remains a secret

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and that is your fader fact tonight very

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special guest stephen bassett

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is here we're going to discuss the new

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biden administration

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and their position on disclosure and the

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ufo question as we head through and

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start 2021

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tomorrow night is another fader night

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with open lines all night long we got a

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huge

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announcement that is going to happen

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tomorrow night and uh stay tuned

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for all of that now this is the point in

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the show

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rivermooncoffee.com the links are over

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at jimmychurchradio.com

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promo code f2b blend emanuel just uh

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posted up on twitter he says are we

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really talking about politicians and

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disclosure again

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but he's got a laughing emoji so yeah

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every four years

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we get to bring up the subject about the

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potus

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confront the ufo question

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now if we rock things back a bit

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we can recall the memories of bill

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clinton on the jimmy kimmel show

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back in 2014 is jimmy kimmel back on the

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air

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but bill clinton you know and

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joking at first he says

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hey i had people look at the record of

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area 51

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to make sure that there are no aliens

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down there

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there were no aliens you remember that

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you remember when bill said that in the

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ufo community

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we were all talking about it it was big

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news

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right and then kimmel turns to clinton

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he said hey

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if if you talking to bill

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would tell americans if there were

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indeed aliens

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would you and clinton said

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yes well we all know that didn't happen

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but then there was hillary on the

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campaign trail back in 2016.

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when she was asked about ufos in an

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interview with the conway daley sun in

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new hampshire

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hillary promised to and i'm quoting get

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to the bottom of it

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when jimmy kimmel asked hillary clinton

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in the late night tv

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interview about ufos she quickly

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corrected his terminology

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and we all remember that don't we

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stating

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it's unexplained aerial phenomenon

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uap that's the latest

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nomenclature end quote

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and then of course there was then

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president barack obama

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also on kimmel that's right

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kimmel's opening statement on that show

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on march

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12 2015 was this quote

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if i was the president i would

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immediately race over to wherever they

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have the files about area 51 and ufos

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and i'd go through everything to find

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out what happened

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00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:36,320
did you do that obama's response

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that's why you will not be president

403
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because that's the first thing that you

404
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would do

405
00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:45,039
and then barack continued with the

406
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aliens won't let it happen you'd reveal

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all their secrets

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and they exercise strict control over us

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i can't reveal anything end quote

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there was analysis done on all of this

411
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there was

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facial recognition people that just

413
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it was crazy analyzing everything

414
00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:12,240
it was a lot of fun too but

415
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this golden era of ufos and politics

416
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only lasted for about 11 months

417
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seemed a lot longer but it was not

418
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but it was fun while it was going on

419
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now here we are it's

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now been four long years without barely

421
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a mention of the subject

422
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when it comes to the potus

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sure i know

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we've had the questions asked of

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president trump

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a few times all of them dismissed

427
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by him by the way he doesn't believe in

428
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ufos aliens e.t

429
00:22:03,270 --> 00:21:59,039
uaps or little green men

430
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:03,280
he thought that roswell

431
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was area 51 or maybe it was that area 51

432
00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:08,480
was roswell

433
00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:10,640
i'm not too sure what was going through

434
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his mind at that time but

435
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:15,120
he didn't have a clue what the questions

436
00:22:21,029 --> 00:22:17,360
were really about

437
00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:21,039
and that's okay i get it seems like he

438
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wasn't read

439
00:22:28,630 --> 00:22:25,280
in didn't ask for it doesn't care

440
00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:28,640
so here we are with just two months left

441
00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:32,799
nearly to the day

442
00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:36,080
that's right will president trump

443
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:38,840
spill the beans about ufos and e.t

444
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contact

445
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:43,600
a little disclosure action before the

446
00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:45,840
inauguration on january 20th

447
00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:48,960
2021 you know

448
00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:57,909
would he do it i know that right now

449
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:00,400
there are many in the ufo community

450
00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:03,280
wondering the same thing

451
00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:07,760
and many think that it's possible

452
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:10,960
i'm not so sure i think the president

453
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:12,400
right now has a few things

454
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:16,159
occupying his time and ufos

455
00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:19,360
aren't one of them and i feel pretty

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00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:20,240
confident

457
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:23,919
in this statement i think that the

458
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:25,520
members of the media

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00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:28,559
and his own son did their very

460
00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:30,720
best to press the issue with president

461
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:31,760
trump

462
00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:36,480
and it just didn't happen did it

463
00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:39,520
you have to remember back when he was

464
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:43,279
asked about ufos and uaps

465
00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:47,120
it was at the height the apogee

466
00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:50,880
the peak of tucker carlson doing his

467
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:51,600
nightly

468
00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:05,029
and you know trump was watching

469
00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:07,520
it wasn't like he didn't know what was

470
00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:08,799
going on

471
00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:11,440
he's glued to the tv and that's cool i'd

472
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:12,320
do it

473
00:24:19,269 --> 00:24:15,760
right but he just

474
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:19,279
wasn't interested in it

475
00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:26,470
there's no real reason to think that

476
00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:27,679
this has changed

477
00:24:31,990 --> 00:24:30,799
over the last few months we know what

478
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:32,000
we've gone through in the last

479
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:35,760
few months okay the election ended on

480
00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:38,480
november 3rd and now he is

481
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definitely occupying his time with other

482
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:42,640
issues

483
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:44,720
and i just don't think ufos are there i

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00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:46,000
don't think they're being discussed

485
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:47,440
in the oval office i don't think he's

486
00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:48,480
thinking about it i don't think he's

487
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,919
laying awake at night

488
00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:51,279
wondering how he's going to break the

489
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:53,039
news to the country i just don't think

490
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:55,520
it's on the agenda it's not on the books

491
00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:56,240
it's not

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00:25:03,190 --> 00:24:59,440
on the calendar all right now

493
00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:03,200
i don't want to bum people out

494
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:09,909
okay what has changed

495
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:13,440
over the last four years though

496
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:15,840
is that and it has nothing to do with

497
00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:17,440
potus

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00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,840
is that allegedly the senate

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00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:21,360
intelligence committee is

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interested in moving the matter forward

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00:25:29,870 --> 00:25:26,159
i say allegedly

502
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:29,880
because uaps and something

503
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:32,880
terrestrial that

504
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:35,039
is from this earth is different from

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00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:36,480
ufos

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00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:38,880
so what is it that the senate

507
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:41,120
intelligence committee is interested in

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00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:42,320
we know

509
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:45,360
that they are interested in our military

510
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:47,200
and the safety of this country and what

511
00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:49,679
possibly may be going on in the skies so

512
00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:51,520
we have to say allegedly because i don't

513
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:54,840
know if it's about ufos

514
00:26:02,549 --> 00:25:57,520
right but

515
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:02,559
that is what may happen in 2021

516
00:26:08,830 --> 00:26:05,679
and that will happen if it does

517
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:08,840
during the new biden administration's

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00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:11,600
watch

519
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:15,520
we will see all of the normal transition

520
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:17,039
appointments within the security

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00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:18,000
services

522
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:21,679
like the cia the nsa the nro the fbi and

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00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:22,559
of course

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00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:25,679
the dod and the pentagon

525
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:29,200
so just like it always is every four

526
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:33,440
years we wait we discuss

527
00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:37,039
and we hope the wild card this time

528
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:37,520
around

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00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:40,240
isn't with a candidate who was on the

530
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:42,559
campaign trail yakking about ufos on

531
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:43,919
late night television

532
00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:46,640
that's not the case right and what that

533
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:47,679
candidate will do

534
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:49,520
once they're in the oval office and

535
00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:52,080
they'll reveal everything about the ufo

536
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:55,360
question for the public no

537
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:58,640
as far as i know joe biden has never

538
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:00,720
brought up or has been asked about

539
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:04,159
flying saucers by the media

540
00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:07,440
the wild card this time

541
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,440
is with the senate intelligence

542
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:11,039
committee

543
00:27:13,510 --> 00:27:12,240
this is one of the things that we're

544
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:13,520
going to be talking about tonight was

545
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:14,720
steven bassett

546
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:17,360
and like i said this is one of the

547
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:17,919
things

548
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:20,480
and i think it's pretty cool that we get

549
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:21,039
to do

550
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:24,320
in the ufo community every four years

551
00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:27,520
is discuss this and hope that's

552
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:32,399
we have to we cannot not do it

553
00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:34,480
the world is in the middle of changes

554
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:36,159
the entire planet

555
00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:38,159
i want to remind everybody talking about

556
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:40,880
a preoccupation in the oval office

557
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:44,320
that uh today we

558
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:47,360
we were just a few dozen deaths

559
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:50,720
short of 2000

560
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:53,520
here in the united states due to covid

561
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:54,720
that's right

562
00:28:02,470 --> 00:27:58,159
it's a crazy number uh once again today

563
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:02,480
we were way over 150 000 cases

564
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:06,000
160 i think it was 168 000

565
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:09,679
cases today the spike in cases not only

566
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:11,279
here in the united states but around the

567
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:12,080
world

568
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:15,200
is alarming the deaths that are

569
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:15,840
happening

570
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:17,919
around the world look at what happened

571
00:28:22,389 --> 00:28:19,279
in italy today

572
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:22,399
look at the numbers it's it's absolutely

573
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frightening

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i don't know when we're going to take

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the turn i don't know if it's going to

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happen

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naturally if immunities are going to

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take over

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there's going to be a change in the

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virus itself i don't know

581
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i don't know if these vaccines and those

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who are going to

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take them voluntarily if that's going to

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make a difference

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i don't know um is that part of the

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science

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i i i don't know and

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with the amount of people that are

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opposed to taking vaccines even if the

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vaccines work

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they don't cause any harm whatsoever and

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that's a possibility

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but the fear of vaccinations is out

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there

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enough around the world that maybe not

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enough people will

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take it i don't know i really don't know

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i don't know so that's what's going on

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in the white house

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do you think that ufos

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are on the agenda between now and

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january 20th

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i don't think so this is fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight

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stephen bassett is here

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live from washington d.c we're going to

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be talking about

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the new biden administration and their

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position on disclosure in the ufo

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heading into 2021 and beyond

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tomorrow night's another fader night big

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announcement on the show tomorrow night

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you're not going to want to miss it

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and kgra the planet

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

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what's up i'm chris what up this is

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[Music]

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00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:01,349
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

728
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jimmy church tonight stephen bassett

729
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is here live from washington d.c we're

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going to be talking about and discussing

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the new biden administration that is

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about to take over

733
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and what it means for disclosure in the

734
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ufo question as we

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head into 2021 i want to remind

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everybody

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00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:21,680
tomorrow night is fader night with open

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lines all night long

739
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and we have a huge announcement a bucket

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list being

741
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:30,560
checked off for me we're gonna announce

742
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:31,200
all of this

743
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:33,520
tomorrow night here on fade to black but

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tonight it's stephen

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00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,960
he's uh of course the executive director

746
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:40,800
of the paradigm research group founded

747
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:42,400
in 1996

748
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:44,160
and all of this to end the

749
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:46,160
government-imposed embargo on truth

750
00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:48,320
behind the so-called ufo phenomenon

751
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:51,599
in 2013 prg produced a citizen

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hearing on disclosure citizens citizen

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citizen steve there's a new word for

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you citizen yeah

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exactly at the national press club in

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washington d.c

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00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:09,520
on november 5th 2014 prg launched a

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congressional hearing

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political initiative is seeking the

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first hearings on capitol hill

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since 1968. his links for

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prg are over at jimmychurchradio.com

763
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:23,760
paradigmresearchgroup.org steven welcome

764
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:24,720
back to the show how

765
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:28,240
are you jimmy long time no see compadre

766
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:31,599
yeah i know and uh this is the thing um

767
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:33,920
there we've got this pandemic going on

768
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and uh

769
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i've heard of it yeah and you and i get

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a chance to uh

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hang out a few times a year somewhere in

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the country

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and uh get caught up on things and break

774
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some bread and

775
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:48,800
that didn't happen this year and i'm not

776
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so sure when uh uh these uh little uh

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ufo get-togethers are going to happen

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00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:54,880
again around the country but

779
00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:58,000
uh i'm sure i'll see you soon enough

780
00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:00,160
so true jeremy look before we get going

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i think i should apologize in advance to

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your listeners

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because i'm not a family man

784
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:10,520
so i've been in strict isolation now for

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242

786
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straight days right and as a result

787
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how can i put this the steak knives in

788
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:20,160
my silverware door have all turned to

789
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dinner knives

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00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:24,480
if you know what i mean i do i do i do

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lost the ledge

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00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:28,720
and uh like give an example

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00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:30,800
i i'll be searching for a word i'll be

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talking when i find a word

795
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and it's not there i've used it

796
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:35,680
countless times it's not there it's gone

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00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:37,440
and i'm thinking where's this word what

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did it retire take a pension and move to

799
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key west

800
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:45,119
where the hell is this word right and so

801
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:47,280
hopefully that'll get better but i'll

802
00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:48,560
tell you man uh

803
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:50,880
i need this vaccine if only to get my

804
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vocabulary back

805
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:56,160
you know what this is the thing is uh i

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i've caught myself doing the same thing

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00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:02,079
uh where my brain

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has gotten a little bit lazy

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00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:08,640
and uh you and i are no different than

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the rest of the country and the rest of

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the world the amount of time that we're

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spending at home

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and uh i can only do so many home

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projects i put in a new

815
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backyard right i put in a new backyard

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i put in a new side yard i put in a new

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front yard

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i put in uh lights and

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things and the inside and i i'm running

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00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:32,640
out of things to do

821
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:36,079
uh to keep my brain uh active

822
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:38,320
but i have found and just like you i do

823
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:39,599
a lot of writing

824
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um obviously prep for the show but i

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write columns and

826
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and i write for people and i'm working

827
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on projects all the time

828
00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:50,320
and i am normally very prolific i can

829
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just

830
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right i i stall

831
00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:56,800
i've never stalled before right i've

832
00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:58,640
never had a problem with that

833
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:01,680
and if if if you and i are having these

834
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:02,560
issues

835
00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:06,240
isn't everybody else oh i think so

836
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:08,800
i i'll wake up in the morning and and go

837
00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:10,960
on facebook and four hours later

838
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:13,839
i'll be watching mma videos on facebook

839
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:14,880
watch

840
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:19,119
that's that's not good uh

841
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:23,040
so hey uh it this will all be over soon

842
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:23,760
enough

843
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:26,000
but you know the worst thing not not

844
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:27,440
being able to find a word while you're

845
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:28,720
just

846
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:30,960
bloviating is one thing what really

847
00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:31,920
scares me

848
00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:33,760
is i'll be trying to remember the name

849
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:35,680
of some movie star

850
00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:37,920
from maybe 30 years ago that i've only

851
00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:39,599
seen all their movies and used it a

852
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:41,920
thousand times that name's not there

853
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:43,680
right and then finally i'll go through

854
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:44,640
the alphabet

855
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:46,720
i'll work on it and i'll think sometimes

856
00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:48,160
i have to go to google and it'll be oh

857
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:48,880
rock hudson

858
00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:51,359
yes yes yes that is scary yeah that's

859
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:53,359
very scary yeah uh rita and i did that

860
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:54,400
the other day

861
00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:56,960
and uh was like what what was his name

862
00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:58,079
and looked at oh

863
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:01,440
harrison ford oh yeah you know

864
00:40:06,309 --> 00:40:04,480
how how how is this happening to us

865
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:06,319
well this is the other thing we've got a

866
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:08,240
lot to talk about tonight but

867
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:11,280
one of my challenges today because

868
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,319
in the past um i wake up i've got stuff

869
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:16,720
to do i got places to go i get up take a

870
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:18,319
shower get dressed

871
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:20,480
uh feed the dogs head out of the house

872
00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:22,560
get my day done get over to the studio

873
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:23,119
right

874
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:27,359
today today i find myself

875
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:30,720
forcing myself to wear socks

876
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:33,839
to write to change clothes to

877
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:36,880
to like put on jeans and a t-shirt

878
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:39,359
you know be a normal human being i

879
00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:41,119
struggle with that now

880
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:42,800
you're forcing yourself i would think

881
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:45,359
your wife is forcing you to wear socks

882
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:48,079
wouldn't it start there she's wearing

883
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:50,000
she's wearing pjs and uh

884
00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:54,079
and uh that was good all day

885
00:40:58,470 --> 00:40:56,720
we're we're nearly uh we're f we'll full

886
00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:58,480
on into it i can't wait to get through

887
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:58,880
it

888
00:41:01,990 --> 00:41:01,520
i kid about that i could uh about that

889
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:02,000
rita is

890
00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:03,680
gonna blow a gasket that's not really

891
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:05,760
what's going on but i do struggle with

892
00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:06,400
it

893
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:09,520
um i i i know that

894
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:13,040
i gauge the country with my own actions

895
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:15,040
and if i'm having issues i'm just

896
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:17,200
average you're you know we're all human

897
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:20,640
we're all doing the same exact things so

898
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:24,240
what do you do then uh to

899
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:26,560
to motivate the brain what are you doing

900
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:27,359
to

901
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:33,440
eating lots of comfort food i have found

902
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:35,200
doesn't work

903
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:37,839
um so i've done that i've gone through

904
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:40,560
unbelievable bags a number of bags of

905
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:43,839
those new uh what is it uh chips those

906
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:44,960
no what do you call them

907
00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:48,000
those uh snaps you know

908
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:50,079
yes those snaps those cheese snap thing

909
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:51,119
that they're selling on t

910
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:54,319
god i'm addicted to those uh but

911
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:57,599
uh look uh i'm but remember you got a

912
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:58,800
wife in a yard

913
00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:00,079
and probably some house pets or

914
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,400
something i do i do i've got

915
00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:04,720
i've got no windows and just light bulbs

916
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:05,680
here i mean there's

917
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:08,560
there's all i can do is rearrange the

918
00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:09,680
books in the bookshelf

919
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:12,800
so i've you've been you've been in jail

920
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:14,720
i've been in solitary confinement all

921
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:15,440
right

922
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:17,839
so i i'm going to say that i've i'm

923
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:19,359
under a little more stress and

924
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:20,800
i'm about to start doing a whole bunch

925
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:22,720
of interviews and i just i got to get my

926
00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:24,240
brain going here

927
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:26,319
uh without using performance-enhancing

928
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,480
drugs other than caffeine and

929
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:30,480
so let's let's hope that today is the

930
00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:33,040
beginning of the revitalization of

931
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:34,319
steve's brain

932
00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:37,040
well you know uh so we are the minor

933
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:37,920
leagues for

934
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:40,960
your uh travel up to the big leagues in

935
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:41,599
uh 21

936
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:43,440
hey that's good we'll get you back in

937
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:45,440
shape we'll get you back in shape

938
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:48,319
i wanted to not minor to me dude i'm

939
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:49,440
just playing

940
00:42:55,349 --> 00:42:52,640
i wanted to ask you this um

941
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:55,359
obviously uh the elephant in the room

942
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:56,480
for everybody is

943
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:58,560
is the political climate and the

944
00:43:01,750 --> 00:42:59,520
questions about

945
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:01,760
you know what is going on especially

946
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:02,720
over these uh

947
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:04,960
next couple of months heading into and

948
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:06,880
if we look at the clock today

949
00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:10,480
is november 18th so we are nearly to the

950
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:11,280
day

951
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:14,480
uh two months away from january 20th

952
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:18,160
um and the the country

953
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:20,400
um has seen a lot of protests in a lot

954
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:21,440
of things

955
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:24,480
and washington dc

956
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:27,440
this this past saturday uh got their

957
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:28,640
taste of it

958
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:31,280
um did you did you venture out did you

959
00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:32,800
go and check that out or did

960
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:35,839
did you watch it on tv no

961
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:38,560
i have always wanted to go to a super

962
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:40,240
spreader event

963
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:42,640
i hear they're really fun but i took a

964
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:45,680
pass because of my underlying condition

965
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:47,920
but there were about i'm going to say

966
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:50,400
between 20 and 45 000 people

967
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:53,359
that's a lot certainly total about 20 of

968
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:55,040
them had masks

969
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:57,040
and so new i wasn't going to get near

970
00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:58,400
that uh but

971
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:01,440
i i saw it on tv look that's

972
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:04,400
the fact is we've we've had i think the

973
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:06,000
last four years have been the most

974
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:07,599
unusual political

975
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:10,240
four years i think in modern american

976
00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:11,280
history

977
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:14,079
i don't want to talk about the 1800s i i

978
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:15,520
i don't know about this

979
00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:19,440
but in the 1900s and and 20 the arts

980
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:21,520
uh this has been an unusual four years

981
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:23,040
so we've all

982
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:25,599
seen things we've never seen before uh

983
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:26,640
had to deal with things

984
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,000
in some cases we've never dealt with

985
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:30,480
before and we've seen a lot of changes

986
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:31,760
and uh

987
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:34,319
it's all been interesting uh we've lived

988
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:36,960
in as the chinese say interesting times

989
00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:40,480
and it is not unusual for such times to

990
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:41,280
generate

991
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:44,319
some pretty good things oftentimes for a

992
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:46,000
society complex society

993
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:47,599
a period like this can generate some

994
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:50,160
extraordinary things

995
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:52,560
so that's the way you want to look at it

996
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:54,800
uh and

997
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:56,560
the new president is going to come into

998
00:45:04,950 --> 00:44:58,000
a

999
00:45:08,710 --> 00:45:04,960
to wish him well

1000
00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:08,720
and uh look forward to uh

1001
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:12,000
to 2021 uh which has got to be better

1002
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:13,119
than 2020.

1003
00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:15,680
of course with me as you know jimmy i'm

1004
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:16,640
all of these things are

1005
00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:19,280
i follow and i'm interested in but i

1006
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,960
pretty much focused i'm interested in

1007
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:22,560
the disclosure process

1008
00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:25,040
how is it what's happening to it during

1009
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:26,960
these four years

1010
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:30,240
and where is that going and i leave the

1011
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:32,880
rest of all the political resolutions to

1012
00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:34,960
smarter people than i so i but i've got

1013
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:36,720
a lot to say about the disclosure

1014
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:39,280
aspect well i uh i don't know if you

1015
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:40,319
heard my opening

1016
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:42,800
rant and for the sake of repeating

1017
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:46,240
myself but there were a couple of points

1018
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:49,119
that i made there that i think are very

1019
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:50,240
interesting

1020
00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:52,880
and that is we have the ability to turn

1021
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:55,280
back the clock and if we go back

1022
00:46:02,710 --> 00:45:58,560
uh to the shows that you and i did

1023
00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:02,720
in 2014 2015 and 2016 leading

1024
00:46:10,309 --> 00:46:06,079
up to those elections and what was going

1025
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:10,319
on with uh bill clinton on late night tv

1026
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:13,040
and obama on late night tv and hillary

1027
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:14,560
and her comments and

1028
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:17,680
it seemed like uh there was

1029
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:21,280
a pretty good push especially for the

1030
00:46:25,589 --> 00:46:23,440
ufo community where this stuff is being

1031
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:25,599
discussed out in the open

1032
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:28,960
and then we know what happened in 2016.

1033
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:32,000
all right that's fine but between

1034
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:35,760
2016 and 2020 what was different

1035
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:38,960
from uh the obama years

1036
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:42,400
uh that lasted for eight is

1037
00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:44,400
these past four years and certainly

1038
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:47,359
going back to 2017 which is three

1039
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:48,720
you know three years two and a half

1040
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:50,640
three years that

1041
00:46:57,030 --> 00:46:53,920
president obama uh president trump

1042
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:57,040
had the opportunity given to him to

1043
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:58,240
address

1044
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:01,280
the ufo question his son

1045
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:04,560
asked him about it right he was lobbed

1046
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:07,760
softballs underarm pitches while tucker

1047
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:08,880
carlson

1048
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:11,359
is on tv with nick pope every single

1049
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:13,760
night right discussing

1050
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:16,160
all of this stuff the opportunity was

1051
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:16,800
there

1052
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:19,920
for the oval office to get involved that

1053
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:23,359
really hasn't happened ever in history

1054
00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:25,680
and that opportunity went past this

1055
00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:27,280
didn't it

1056
00:47:33,670 --> 00:47:30,400
uh look there there have been uh a few

1057
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:33,680
handful uh moments during the last four

1058
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:35,520
years where the current president was

1059
00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:39,040
bumped about the issue not heavy-duty

1060
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:41,280
uh interrogation not intense questions

1061
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:42,720
but a light question

1062
00:47:46,549 --> 00:47:44,559
from george stephanopoulos from tucker

1063
00:47:50,309 --> 00:47:46,559
carlson from his son

1064
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:50,319
from uh uh barrett bart bartromo

1065
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:53,680
i think it's trouble uh but not not

1066
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:56,240
not that's not a lot uh clearly it was

1067
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:56,720
in play

1068
00:48:00,710 --> 00:48:00,079
time but let's put that in context with

1069
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:00,720
the

1070
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:07,200
as you referred to now just let me bring

1071
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:07,839
your

1072
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:11,359
uh all those

1073
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:14,800
articles 400 plus articles that

1074
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:16,319
you might have read some of them during

1075
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:19,040
that period 2015-2016

1076
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:20,480
talking about hillary clinton and the

1077
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:22,880
e.t issue talking about podesta and etsu

1078
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:23,119
and

1079
00:48:27,829 --> 00:48:24,800
bill clinton rockefeller initiative all

1080
00:48:30,270 --> 00:48:27,839
of that that was moi

1081
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:30,280
all right i arrived in washington in

1082
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:31,839
2014

1083
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:36,559
person back because i had a little bit

1084
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:37,680
of money she's a

1085
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:40,480
long time washington pro been and knows

1086
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:42,000
everybody in this town knows all the

1087
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:43,839
media and she's been doing pr for top

1088
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:45,599
level people 35 years

1089
00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:48,400
he's a friend of mine so i got a deal

1090
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:50,960
and we immediately started pushing

1091
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:54,559
uh the media in this town about this

1092
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:56,480
connection between the

1093
00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:58,800
the candidate hillary clinton secretary

1094
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:00,640
clinton and the e.t issue going all the

1095
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:03,280
way back to 1993

1096
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:04,720
and the podesta connection and her

1097
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:06,720
husband's connection and we we we

1098
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:08,880
we hit these stories with washington

1099
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:09,839
times and

1100
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:11,839
and we're eventually able to get some

1101
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:14,640
stories early on in the washington times

1102
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,720
about the clinton et connection which is

1103
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:18,720
non-trivial given that she was the

1104
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:22,079
presumptive uh winner of the election uh

1105
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:24,960
and this is a very big issue and that

1106
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:26,319
snowballed

1107
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:28,160
because we put enough pressure on the

1108
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:29,760
clinton campaign team which included

1109
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:30,720
podesta

1110
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:34,160
that eventually he had to respond in uh

1111
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:37,440
february of 2015

1112
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:39,599
with a very famous tweet now it'll go

1113
00:49:41,829 --> 00:49:41,040
down in history and that's the regret

1114
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:41,839
tweet

1115
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:44,640
where on his last day of leaving uh his

1116
00:49:49,109 --> 00:49:46,720
job as advisor to obama

1117
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:49,119
he uh he he tweeted my biggest regret

1118
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:49,920
for

1119
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:53,040
uh this last year is once again not

1120
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:55,520
getting hashtag disclosure of the ufo

1121
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:56,400
files

1122
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:59,040
and that launched a bunch of articles

1123
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,640
and it just went from there

1124
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:03,119
and it got so intense that she had to go

1125
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:04,160
on kimmel and he

1126
00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:06,160
he and her husband went on kimmel and

1127
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:07,359
obama went on

1128
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:10,480
on a cold bear and ellen degeneres show

1129
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:10,880
and

1130
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:13,280
so forth all of that was happening this

1131
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:14,640
was the biggest

1132
00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:17,520
media coverage any campaign of the et

1133
00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:17,920
issue

1134
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:20,960
ever in history very much focused on not

1135
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:22,960
just any candidate but the candidate

1136
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:26,480
assumed to win for sure and so you're

1137
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:28,079
thinking okay

1138
00:50:31,109 --> 00:50:29,760
now all of this is happening while

1139
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:31,119
obama's president

1140
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:33,280
so the obama could have seen all of that

1141
00:50:37,109 --> 00:50:34,880
and watched it all going on

1142
00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:37,119
and going whoa this is a big deal let me

1143
00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:38,240
look into this

1144
00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:40,559
and made a decision to go and do

1145
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:41,760
something on his own

1146
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:44,720
in other words there was a hundred times

1147
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:45,359
more

1148
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:47,839
uh media activity and coverage of this

1149
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:50,400
issue and statements from the candidates

1150
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:52,960
candidate than this time around this

1151
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:54,240
last four years

1152
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:56,240
now obama didn't do it for a number of

1153
00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:58,160
reasons i think i know why i think i

1154
00:51:02,150 --> 00:51:00,319
think obama was already

1155
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:02,160
been briefed in a sense by the clintons

1156
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:03,920
and was part of their strategy

1157
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:06,640
he was cooperating he was on board so he

1158
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:08,160
did not move there

1159
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:09,760
and you're thinking okay with all that

1160
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:11,280
media wow

1161
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:13,200
something should have happened something

1162
00:51:16,150 --> 00:51:15,440
big there's two reasons something big

1163
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:16,160
didn't happen

1164
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:19,200
one for reasons that to this day i don't

1165
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:21,119
fully understand

1166
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:25,200
uh the what 20 20 25

1167
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:27,839
news host moderators of the debates and

1168
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:29,040
the town halls

1169
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:31,520
for both parties democrat and republican

1170
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:33,200
as you know how many what they're 30

1171
00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:35,280
republican candidates and whatever in

1172
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:36,319
the beginning yeah

1173
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:38,079
right oh i don't know how many questions

1174
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,160
they ask and all there's 36

1175
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:42,480
debates and town halls that they they

1176
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:43,760
ask questions to get people to

1177
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:44,319
understand

1178
00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:45,839
these candidates not a single one of

1179
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:48,079
those person asked a single question

1180
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:48,800
about the e.t

1181
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:50,480
issue in spite of the fact it was all

1182
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:51,440
over the new york times and the

1183
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:52,319
washington post

1184
00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:53,920
right and i'd like to sit down with

1185
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,160
every one of them and go

1186
00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:58,319
can you honestly tell me did you know

1187
00:52:00,390 --> 00:51:59,760
anything about have you seen those

1188
00:52:02,390 --> 00:52:00,400
articles

1189
00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:02,400
were you aware of at all about the

1190
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:03,680
clinton connection to the e.t

1191
00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:05,680
issue or were you aware and made the

1192
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:07,760
decision not to ask that question

1193
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:09,599
and why it would be fascinating to have

1194
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:10,960
those discussions with these

1195
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:14,000
25 news hosts but they didn't and as a

1196
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:15,599
result there was

1197
00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:17,920
not very very unlikely that anything

1198
00:52:20,950 --> 00:52:18,880
would break

1199
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:20,960
during the campaign i was fine with that

1200
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:22,559
because i knew with a high degree of

1201
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:23,440
certainty

1202
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:26,240
that as had been planned for years once

1203
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:27,760
she won the presidency and entered the

1204
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:29,200
white house one of the very first things

1205
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:30,240
she was going to do

1206
00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:32,160
is go after the e.t issue she was going

1207
00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:33,839
to go after the disclosure issue

1208
00:52:37,829 --> 00:52:35,839
she was going to go demand from the dod

1209
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:37,839
the files that her husband asked for and

1210
00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:39,200
never got

1211
00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:40,720
now where she was going to get the

1212
00:52:44,710 --> 00:52:43,119
legacy for her and her husband

1213
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:44,720
and become one of the great presidents

1214
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:46,880
of all time and so i'm fine with that

1215
00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:49,200
but then of course she lost the election

1216
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:50,400
and so that's the

1217
00:52:54,069 --> 00:52:52,480
preface to what's happening now so while

1218
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:54,079
i i've noticed some things happening and

1219
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:55,040
i pay attention to

1220
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:57,760
everything along those lines be assured

1221
00:53:01,829 --> 00:52:58,079
it's

1222
00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:01,839
nothing like what happened 19 2015 2016.

1223
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:04,480
okay so we have a new president he comes

1224
00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:05,920
into office

1225
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:08,480
and uh who knows what's going to happen

1226
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:10,079
obviously there was a lot of a lot of

1227
00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:11,359
things up in the air

1228
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:14,160
but something else happened of extreme

1229
00:53:17,309 --> 00:53:14,960
importance

1230
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:17,319
during that presidential campaign of

1231
00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:18,559
2016.

1232
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:21,040
i was doing my thing and i was having a

1233
00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:22,640
great time feeling good about it

1234
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:24,160
i was talking reporters all over the

1235
00:53:28,549 --> 00:53:26,240
world i was generating articles

1236
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:28,559
i think there's like 120 news articles

1237
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,359
out there

1238
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:31,440
uh new york times washington post and so

1239
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:33,119
forth talking about me

1240
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:35,359
you know little old me there i am and by

1241
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:36,960
the way i never got a call from a single

1242
00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:39,359
news organization saying uh mr basket i

1243
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:41,359
saw you in the new york times would you

1244
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:43,440
you'd like to comment on this clinton no

1245
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:45,040
they didn't call me that's all right

1246
00:53:52,349 --> 00:53:50,240
so uh something else was going on

1247
00:53:54,309 --> 00:53:52,359
that i didn't learn about until march of

1248
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:54,319
2016.

1249
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:57,119
i knew nothing about this until then and

1250
00:54:03,190 --> 00:53:59,760
and what we got in 2016 was only a

1251
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:03,200
a teaser and that's when tom delong

1252
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:06,480
in march gives it a very long three hour

1253
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:07,200
interview to

1254
00:54:10,950 --> 00:54:09,280
george knapp coast to coast am sunday

1255
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:10,960
show you know i'm talking about

1256
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:12,960
and and george who's one of the top

1257
00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:14,559
people in this genre

1258
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:16,319
and a top journalist i mean he's just a

1259
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:18,000
total professional

1260
00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:19,920
he he made a huge deal out of this in

1261
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:21,680
other words the intro to this show you

1262
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:23,040
thought that you were about to

1263
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:24,880
to learn the cure for cancer here it was

1264
00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:27,599
a big deal so i my ears really picked up

1265
00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:30,000
so tom comes on and over the next three

1266
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:31,119
hours

1267
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:33,200
in a somewhat rambling fashion tom is

1268
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:34,880
not a retor

1269
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:36,880
a rhetoric giant i mean he's a you know

1270
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:38,079
average guy but

1271
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:40,079
he's talking about how he had meetings

1272
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:42,160
and and got to meet people inside the

1273
00:54:45,589 --> 00:54:43,040
you know government

1274
00:54:47,589 --> 00:54:45,599
high level people he's not naming names

1275
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:47,599
and that there's something big coming

1276
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:49,520
and there's going to be some books and

1277
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:51,040
stuff

1278
00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:53,520
and he he goes through some of them the

1279
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:55,040
meetings he had

1280
00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:57,280
and what he was trying to do he was

1281
00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:58,079
trying to get

1282
00:55:02,549 --> 00:55:00,880
the the the government or the dod to to

1283
00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:02,559
do something about getting files out and

1284
00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:04,160
things like that okay fine

1285
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,680
so he's basically saying i got something

1286
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:07,440
going here i can't give you names i

1287
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:09,359
can't give you a name of the project

1288
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:11,040
but it's happening and and big things

1289
00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:12,799
are coming and and and i'm

1290
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:14,799
listening to this and i'm going tom de

1291
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:15,839
long is a fifth

1292
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:18,079
at that time a 40 year old rock guy with

1293
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:19,680
a high school education

1294
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:22,720
right a big following very popular nice

1295
00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:23,359
guy

1296
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:24,880
occasionally i think he he would go

1297
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:26,640
naked on stage or whatever the hell

1298
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,760
i'm going there's no way this guy is

1299
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:31,920
involved in a major project being put

1300
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:34,240
together by high level dod and and

1301
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:34,880
people

1302
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:41,200
grasp that you know uh but hey it's a

1303
00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:42,000
crazy world

1304
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:45,280
and so i just stepped back and waited

1305
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:46,640
well

1306
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:49,760
on that show in march of 2016 with nab

1307
00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:51,280
he talked about one of the very first

1308
00:55:53,829 --> 00:55:52,880
things going to happen as part of this

1309
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:53,839
grand project

1310
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:55,280
was a series of books were going to be

1311
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:56,880
published and one of them was going to

1312
00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:57,599
come out

1313
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:00,640
very soon called secret machines

1314
00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:03,760
uh fiction as non-fiction well a month

1315
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:05,920
later my god secret machines was

1316
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:08,640
published and i realized at that point

1317
00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:11,040
whatever the hell he was talking about

1318
00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:14,799
is real and this could be a big deal

1319
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:17,280
but we want to know more well we didn't

1320
00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:18,640
hear more i mean it just

1321
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,400
very nothing was said after that pretty

1322
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:22,160
much quiet

1323
00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:27,040
and the next thing that happened

1324
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:31,599
was before the election wikileaks

1325
00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:33,359
joaneen assange does not like hillary

1326
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:34,640
clinton and hillary clinton does not

1327
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,160
like julian assange

1328
00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:38,640
he dumps 50 000 emails out that have

1329
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:39,280
been hacked

1330
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:41,760
probably by the russians from podesta's

1331
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:42,960
uh servers

1332
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:45,280
and dumps them out to the public and

1333
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:46,400
those emails

1334
00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:48,720
were designed to embarrass the democrats

1335
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:51,200
but and i knew this would be the case

1336
00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:54,240
i knew there was et ufo uap stuff in

1337
00:56:58,470 --> 00:56:56,079
those emails i knew it was there

1338
00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:58,480
and i said wow this will be interesting

1339
00:57:01,109 --> 00:57:00,079
and so i started going through them as

1340
00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:01,119
they came out

1341
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:03,359
and sure enough there's about 90 emails

1342
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:05,119
in there referring to

1343
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:09,119
ufo i prefer to say uap matters

1344
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:12,319
and many of them had tom delong all over

1345
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,240
them and what we learned

1346
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:16,240
is that in the lead up to the election

1347
00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:17,359
that year

1348
00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:20,559
tom had approached podesta

1349
00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:22,480
to engage him in this thing that they

1350
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:24,480
were putting together whatever it was

1351
00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:26,960
he'd introduced them to certain insiders

1352
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:28,480
they sat down for an interview there

1353
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:29,920
were some photographs

1354
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:31,680
and none of that was supposed to come

1355
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:33,359
out that let me

1356
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:36,000
let me back up i still have i don't even

1357
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:38,160
care at this point i'll text it to you

1358
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:41,440
i have on my phone i uh this is

1359
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:44,960
before the wikileaks and

1360
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:48,160
they text me uh this picture

1361
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:49,760
check this out we're all together right

1362
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:51,440
now

1363
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:55,680
okay and i look and it's it's de long

1364
00:58:03,670 --> 00:57:59,839
peter lavender podesta and

1365
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:03,680
like three dudes in uniform

1366
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:07,200
but they are in this obvious

1367
00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:10,000
washington establishment you know the

1368
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:11,520
pink marble walls

1369
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:15,280
the the pillars and in this ginormous

1370
00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:16,000
room

1371
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:18,000
and i look i blew up the mouth is that

1372
00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:19,359
podesta

1373
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:22,880
holy crap you know and that's when i

1374
00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:25,599
i said okay i guess there's something

1375
00:58:29,829 --> 00:58:26,880
going on like this is

1376
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:29,839
this is this photograph i'm looking at

1377
00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:30,480
is

1378
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:33,040
the genuine article um i don't know

1379
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:33,520
where

1380
00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:37,200
it was

1381
00:58:40,630 --> 00:58:39,440
right and then right after that podesta

1382
00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:40,640
wikileaks

1383
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:42,799
and and that pretty much ended as far as

1384
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:44,079
that relationship goes

1385
00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:46,960
i i all the i went through and found all

1386
00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:48,000
of the emails

1387
00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:50,400
in the podesta files that had any e.t

1388
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:52,000
connection

1389
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:53,920
and they are on my website right now you

1390
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:58,309
it's on there somewhere i think it's in

1391
00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:00,319
the blog section whatever yes the blog

1392
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:02,319
section and the disclosure wire blog

1393
00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:05,200
uh and then i not only did i highlight

1394
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:06,559
them but i also

1395
00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:08,240
provided some commentary on them so

1396
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:09,839
there's about 90 of those and you can go

1397
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:11,359
see them on my website right now okay

1398
00:59:14,870 --> 00:59:12,319
well this was

1399
00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:14,880
this was very very interesting and of

1400
00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:16,799
course i thought fantastic

1401
00:59:21,510 --> 00:59:19,200
uh by the way there's no indication that

1402
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,520
they approached the republican campaign

1403
00:59:24,789 --> 00:59:23,280
uh prior to the election i i don't

1404
00:59:27,829 --> 00:59:24,799
believe they did

1405
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:27,839
so okay so now i'm really excited

1406
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:30,400
i'm going wow so something big is going

1407
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:31,680
down and i started to put the pieces

1408
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:32,079
together

1409
00:59:35,589 --> 00:59:33,520
and i think i know what's going on but

1410
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:35,599
still no no structure no

1411
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:40,480
no names and then the election was lost

1412
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:43,680
and uh i i learned pretty quickly that

1413
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:46,960
that was a big problem uh because some

1414
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of the people that got out

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in the in the podesta emails were were

1416
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:52,000
supposed to not be outed their names

1417
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:53,599
were not supposed to be in play

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00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:55,839
they had to sort of slip back into the

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shadows

1420
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:58,799
and this whole thing just kind of shut

1421
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down and we didn't hear anything at all

1422
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:03,040
so let me jump in right there stephen we

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have to take a break

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so this is a perfect spot for that let's

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get this break in this is fade to black

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i'm your host jimmy church tonight live

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from washington d.c

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stephen bassett is joining us to talk

1429
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:17,200
about the new biden administration

1430
01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:19,280
and it's about to take over and of

1431
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course what this means for disclosure in

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the ufo question

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as 2021 enters the picture we'll be

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right back after this short break stay

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight steven

1561
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bassett live from washington dc

1562
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tonight we're talking about the new

1563
01:05:59,230 --> 01:05:56,480
biden administration

1564
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going to come into play january 20th

1565
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2021

1566
01:06:05,109 --> 01:06:03,039
they're about to take over and what this

1567
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means for disclosure and the ufo

1568
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question

1569
01:06:10,150 --> 01:06:08,400
uh it is on everybody's mind we do this

1570
01:06:13,510 --> 01:06:10,160
every four years

1571
01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:13,520
and uh stephen picking up where we

1572
01:06:20,069 --> 01:06:17,119
left off uh before the break was

1573
01:06:20,789 --> 01:06:20,079
the momentum that was building up going

1574
01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:20,799
into

1575
01:06:27,029 --> 01:06:24,160
uh 2016 shifted um

1576
01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:27,039
and then tom delong uh comes along does

1577
01:06:32,069 --> 01:06:28,880
that interview with knapp

1578
01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:32,079
and we move forward quickly into

1579
01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:35,440
obviously december 17 2017

1580
01:06:39,349 --> 01:06:37,920
um the opportunities were there for the

1581
01:06:42,870 --> 01:06:39,359
oval office

1582
01:06:46,309 --> 01:06:42,880
uh not only with uh the videos

1583
01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:46,319
uh pilots uh the senate uh

1584
01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:49,520
started to get involved uh hearings

1585
01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:52,480
were happening behind closed doors all

1586
01:06:57,029 --> 01:06:54,400
of this was an opportunity for the white

1587
01:07:01,510 --> 01:06:57,039
house but it seemed to once again

1588
01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:01,520
get stalled is that in your guesstimate

1589
01:07:05,829 --> 01:07:03,839
my opinion doesn't matter is it just

1590
01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:05,839
that president trump wasn't interested

1591
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:11,430
i think that's true it's also the case

1592
01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:14,160
that the opportunity for disclosure

1593
01:07:20,789 --> 01:07:17,520
been before every president nixon reagan

1594
01:07:22,710 --> 01:07:20,799
carter carter yeah uh clinton ford bush

1595
01:07:23,990 --> 01:07:22,720
and obama they all had the opportunity

1596
01:07:27,670 --> 01:07:24,000
right but the

1597
01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:27,680
truth embargo which is now in its 70th

1598
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year

1599
01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:32,480
70th anniversary is pretty

1600
01:07:36,069 --> 01:07:34,799
well managed and pretty intense and

1601
01:07:39,349 --> 01:07:36,079
successful

1602
01:07:42,549 --> 01:07:39,359
and ending the truth embargo is no easy

1603
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:42,559
thing it requires uh

1604
01:07:47,589 --> 01:07:45,839
a lot of effort and and gravitas and

1605
01:07:48,710 --> 01:07:47,599
resources and so forth and it just

1606
01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:48,720
wasn't there

1607
01:07:52,710 --> 01:07:51,280
and so in that that sense trump is no

1608
01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:52,720
different than any of those other

1609
01:07:58,150 --> 01:07:53,760
presidents

1610
01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:58,160
including obama uh so uh

1611
01:08:01,510 --> 01:07:59,920
before i get to that let me just quickly

1612
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:01,520
get us up to speed here

1613
01:08:05,589 --> 01:08:04,240
and and that once the election went the

1614
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:05,599
other way

1615
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:08,640
i i knew that the disclosure process was

1616
01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:10,000
dead in the water

1617
01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:11,920
and i was basically a disclosure

1618
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:14,160
activist without portfolio

1619
01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:16,960
i was not a happy camper uh there was

1620
01:08:19,990 --> 01:08:18,640
nothing from tom delong after that they

1621
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:20,000
went completely i knew that something

1622
01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:22,080
was in the works but i just sort of knew

1623
01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:25,359
it's off the table and so i i stayed

1624
01:08:28,309 --> 01:08:26,560
around a couple of months in california

1625
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:28,319
and then i went to uk

1626
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:30,960
to practice my english and uh see if i

1627
01:08:33,669 --> 01:08:32,400
can get into trouble over there

1628
01:08:35,910 --> 01:08:33,679
and i was over there for like i don't

1629
01:08:38,630 --> 01:08:35,920
know seven months uh

1630
01:08:40,789 --> 01:08:38,640
and while i was there after about 10

1631
01:08:43,990 --> 01:08:40,799
months went 11 months went by

1632
01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:44,000
all of a sudden tom delong's project

1633
01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:48,960
was launched october 11 2017

1634
01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:52,080
and i was watching it from there

1635
01:08:55,510 --> 01:08:54,640
with dismay because it was a big deal it

1636
01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:55,520
was a huge

1637
01:08:58,950 --> 01:08:57,520
deal and all of my colleagues back in

1638
01:09:02,149 --> 01:08:58,960
the us were getting all these

1639
01:09:03,669 --> 01:09:02,159
you know uh media invites on tv i'm in

1640
01:09:05,590 --> 01:09:03,679
london no know what hell i was

1641
01:09:07,829 --> 01:09:05,600
so i i didn't get anything right so i

1642
01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:07,839
basically i left the field

1643
01:09:10,870 --> 01:09:09,520
as the team was going towards a

1644
01:09:14,390 --> 01:09:10,880
touchdown uh

1645
01:09:15,430 --> 01:09:14,400
so um the launch of the two the stars

1646
01:09:18,309 --> 01:09:15,440
academy

1647
01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:18,319
let me let me be as emphatic as i can be

1648
01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:20,480
whatever one thinks of it

1649
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:23,520
then or now as far as i'm concerned

1650
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:26,560
on that day we cross the rubicon

1651
01:09:29,829 --> 01:09:29,120
after all these years the disclosure

1652
01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:29,839
process

1653
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:31,279
the disclosure movement which is an

1654
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:33,600
activist movement it crossed the rubicon

1655
01:09:37,829 --> 01:09:36,000
and there would be no going back it was

1656
01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:37,839
going to be forward and it was going to

1657
01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:38,480
be

1658
01:09:42,789 --> 01:09:41,279
at a relatively fast pace exactly what

1659
01:09:46,229 --> 01:09:42,799
would happen weren't sure

1660
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:46,239
but the the it was the website

1661
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:48,000
the initial launch the video

1662
01:09:50,630 --> 01:09:49,440
presentation they did the people that

1663
01:09:53,349 --> 01:09:50,640
were involved

1664
01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:53,359
uh i recognized because of my background

1665
01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:55,520
how big a deal that was

1666
01:10:01,990 --> 01:09:58,719
and so for the next three years as you

1667
01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:02,000
as you know uh we have been following

1668
01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:04,000
the activities of the two the stars

1669
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:05,679
academy of arts and sciences

1670
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:07,600
sciences now referred to as the to the

1671
01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:08,800
stars academy

1672
01:10:12,550 --> 01:10:11,360
because arts and sciences is too much

1673
01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:12,560
right went too far

1674
01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:16,000
right to the stars academy the ttsa uh

1675
01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:19,520
and uh i i know that you've discussed it

1676
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:20,800
on your show

1677
01:10:23,830 --> 01:10:22,880
uh so i don't wanna i mean i'm gonna get

1678
01:10:28,229 --> 01:10:23,840
into it too deep

1679
01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:28,239
but uh or let me put it this way

1680
01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:31,440
let me let me sum it up this way uh and

1681
01:10:34,790 --> 01:10:33,280
those that want to get the details i've

1682
01:10:36,390 --> 01:10:34,800
got a huge amount of material about the

1683
01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:36,400
ttsa on my website

1684
01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:40,159
400 articles about it linked 170

1685
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:42,880
video clips about it and so forth but

1686
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:44,080
here is what in my

1687
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:48,719
view happened on that day october 11th

1688
01:10:52,950 --> 01:10:51,840
it was announced that an a a

1689
01:10:56,830 --> 01:10:52,960
non-governmental

1690
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:56,840
organization an ngo was launched as a

1691
01:11:02,070 --> 01:11:00,320
proxy for the department of defense

1692
01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:02,080
and even the military intelligence

1693
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:03,920
complex frankly

1694
01:11:10,630 --> 01:11:07,440
in order to proceed with disclosure

1695
01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:10,640
work right

1696
01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:14,080
on their behalf but not as

1697
01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:17,120
a part of the government itself uh now

1698
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:18,719
you may say what does that mean

1699
01:11:23,030 --> 01:11:22,000
it means this there have always been

1700
01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:23,040
people inside

1701
01:11:26,870 --> 01:11:25,440
our government at all levels military

1702
01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:26,880
agencies nasa

1703
01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:29,440
political staffers on the hill that are

1704
01:11:33,189 --> 01:11:31,440
aware of the e.t issue

1705
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:33,199
hell there's contactees throughout all

1706
01:11:35,510 --> 01:11:34,880
of that there's contact ease in every

1707
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:35,520
major

1708
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:38,960
uh entity in the and the government

1709
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:41,760
uh so they've always been there and

1710
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:43,440
there's always been a certain

1711
01:11:48,870 --> 01:11:46,800
uh support very probably private not not

1712
01:11:50,470 --> 01:11:48,880
discussed much within the government

1713
01:11:52,950 --> 01:11:50,480
that it's time for the people to know

1714
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:52,960
the truth and that the quote embargo

1715
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:53,520
should end

1716
01:11:56,870 --> 01:11:54,800
that's always been there i think it's

1717
01:11:57,990 --> 01:11:56,880
been there going back to the 50s and 60s

1718
01:11:59,910 --> 01:11:58,000
the point is that the government's

1719
01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:59,920
position was clear and emphatic and

1720
01:12:03,350 --> 01:12:00,560
heavily

1721
01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:03,360
enforced and so there's a there's

1722
01:12:06,550 --> 01:12:04,640
there's some people in there to favor it

1723
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:06,560
that doesn't mean it's going to happen

1724
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:08,320
and so that was the case for all those

1725
01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:10,239
years and the citizen

1726
01:12:14,229 --> 01:12:12,719
science activist movement has been

1727
01:12:15,750 --> 01:12:14,239
pushing against that

1728
01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:15,760
pushing against the government educating

1729
01:12:18,149 --> 01:12:17,600
the people educating the press in hopes

1730
01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:18,159
to

1731
01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:21,120
raise the uh the the uh critic achieve a

1732
01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:22,080
critical mass

1733
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:24,239
that could break through and finally get

1734
01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:26,320
the truth embargo done we couldn't do it

1735
01:12:30,310 --> 01:12:28,000
a lot of people tried including me we

1736
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:30,320
couldn't do it and then the ttsa was

1737
01:12:34,229 --> 01:12:31,440
launched

1738
01:12:34,830 --> 01:12:34,239
and so what did we learn from that basic

1739
01:12:37,830 --> 01:12:34,840
launch

1740
01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:37,840
okay the group that was formed with the

1741
01:12:41,750 --> 01:12:39,199
exception of tom delong

1742
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:41,760
were all high level careerists in the

1743
01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:43,760
military intelligence complex

1744
01:12:47,669 --> 01:12:46,320
or defense contractors doing high level

1745
01:12:50,229 --> 01:12:47,679
secret work

1746
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:50,239
long time careers mostly retired some on

1747
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:51,520
contract work

1748
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:54,000
uh which is extraordinary never happened

1749
01:12:57,110 --> 01:12:54,800
before

1750
01:12:58,070 --> 01:12:57,120
these are people that that could

1751
01:13:00,229 --> 01:12:58,080
continue to make

1752
01:13:01,990 --> 01:13:00,239
lots of money if not directly with the

1753
01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:02,000
government but in contract work

1754
01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:03,280
they have to make all the money they

1755
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:05,040
want and here they are

1756
01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:06,480
joining this group that's going to be

1757
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:08,880
pursuing the issues related to the

1758
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:09,600
subject

1759
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:12,880
witnesses research technology

1760
01:13:18,070 --> 01:13:15,600
big deal even education oh big deal and

1761
01:13:18,550 --> 01:13:18,080
a nice company a little company and i'm

1762
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:18,560
going

1763
01:13:25,189 --> 01:13:23,600
you don't do that anybody with that kind

1764
01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:25,199
of career that get does something like

1765
01:13:28,630 --> 01:13:26,480
that if we're talking about

1766
01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:28,640
the past as prologue immediately

1767
01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:30,239
destroys their their

1768
01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:32,960
their credibility their legacy they end

1769
01:13:37,510 --> 01:13:35,520
up being treated as fools and buffoons

1770
01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:37,520
i don't care if you spent 30 years as an

1771
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:38,960
undercover agent for the

1772
01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:41,280
cia you're now a ufo buffoon that's the

1773
01:13:45,189 --> 01:13:42,880
way it would used to be

1774
01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:45,199
but apparently no that's not the case

1775
01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:46,880
and so what is going on

1776
01:13:50,950 --> 01:13:49,600
what was going on i could in my view was

1777
01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:50,960
that a significant

1778
01:13:54,790 --> 01:13:52,800
group within the military intelligence

1779
01:13:56,310 --> 01:13:54,800
complex probably centered mostly in the

1780
01:13:58,630 --> 01:13:56,320
dod

1781
01:13:59,350 --> 01:13:58,640
had gotten enough clout enough i don't

1782
01:14:02,550 --> 01:13:59,360
know

1783
01:14:03,750 --> 01:14:02,560
uh they established a situation that

1784
01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:03,760
where they could support

1785
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:07,120
this project and it would not be uh

1786
01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:09,280
uh terminated or revoked by other

1787
01:14:11,669 --> 01:14:10,400
elements within the military

1788
01:14:13,669 --> 01:14:11,679
intelligence complex

1789
01:14:15,189 --> 01:14:13,679
in other words they had backers they had

1790
01:14:18,070 --> 01:14:15,199
people covering them inside

1791
01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:18,080
and and uh and uh not herman cahn but

1792
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:18,960
semivan

1793
01:14:21,669 --> 01:14:20,080
in an interview with one of my

1794
01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:21,679
colleagues said exactly that he said

1795
01:14:25,830 --> 01:14:23,760
there's 30 or 40 people in the dod

1796
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:25,840
that are sort of behind us on this okay

1797
01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:26,960
fine

1798
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:29,280
whose names cannot be mentioned okay so

1799
01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:31,679
okay so they created this other group

1800
01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:35,040
it's outside of the dod fine

1801
01:14:40,070 --> 01:14:38,560
and why because that ngo can do stuff

1802
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:40,080
that the dod could not

1803
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:43,280
possibly do perfect example there is no

1804
01:14:47,270 --> 01:14:44,080
way

1805
01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:47,280
that a serving officer in the department

1806
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:48,719
of defense

1807
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:51,840
could walk out the door with three gun

1808
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:52,480
camera

1809
01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:55,199
clips of extraordinary intercepts of

1810
01:14:58,149 --> 01:14:56,000
uaps by

1811
01:14:59,910 --> 01:14:58,159
the u.s navy and walk them over to the

1812
01:15:01,270 --> 01:14:59,920
new york times in order to get a major

1813
01:15:03,830 --> 01:15:01,280
story in the front page

1814
01:15:04,870 --> 01:15:03,840
that could not happen all right and

1815
01:15:06,630 --> 01:15:04,880
there's a whole bunch of other

1816
01:15:08,950 --> 01:15:06,640
they simply could not do that they they

1817
01:15:10,709 --> 01:15:08,960
are part of the national defense system

1818
01:15:12,630 --> 01:15:10,719
and and the commander in chief is the

1819
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:12,640
president and you don't make a move like

1820
01:15:17,910 --> 01:15:14,880
that without the president signing off

1821
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:17,920
however a non-governmental organization

1822
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:19,840
which happens to be made up of people

1823
01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:22,080
with the careers with the careers and

1824
01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:23,280
the connections and the security

1825
01:15:25,830 --> 01:15:24,080
clearances and so

1826
01:15:27,350 --> 01:15:25,840
forth well they could go over and give

1827
01:15:28,870 --> 01:15:27,360
it to the new york times

1828
01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:28,880
and that's what they did and they gave

1829
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:30,960
them a lot more they announced the a-tip

1830
01:15:34,229 --> 01:15:32,159
program

1831
01:15:36,470 --> 01:15:34,239
they named names they brought the gun

1832
01:15:38,070 --> 01:15:36,480
camera footage and launched

1833
01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:38,080
two front page stories which is

1834
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:39,920
extremely rare for the new york times

1835
01:15:43,030 --> 01:15:42,480
same authors below the cover not above

1836
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:43,040
the cover

1837
01:15:47,189 --> 01:15:45,840
above the uh the crease which i believe

1838
01:15:49,910 --> 01:15:47,199
will go down in history as two of the

1839
01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:49,920
most important news articles ever

1840
01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:53,199
and that of course was the next

1841
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:55,760
major event and when that happened i

1842
01:16:00,310 --> 01:15:58,080
realized oh my god

1843
01:16:01,830 --> 01:16:00,320
i see what what they're going to do i

1844
01:16:03,590 --> 01:16:01,840
see that there's an agenda here

1845
01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:03,600
this this is a bunch of guys that had

1846
01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:04,960
nothing to do after they left the

1847
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:06,080
government employ

1848
01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:07,760
wanted to put something together so they

1849
01:16:11,590 --> 01:16:09,520
would you know keep busy

1850
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:11,600
hang out maybe drink beers in san diego

1851
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:12,640
oh no

1852
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:14,480
this is some very serious people with a

1853
01:16:17,030 --> 01:16:16,239
very serious agenda and what was that

1854
01:16:20,149 --> 01:16:17,040
agenda

1855
01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:20,159
jump in

1856
01:16:27,189 --> 01:16:23,280
why do you uh why do you

1857
01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:27,199
think that nothing since then

1858
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:29,120
has happened it's been three years we're

1859
01:16:34,630 --> 01:16:31,360
going into our fourth year

1860
01:16:38,149 --> 01:16:34,640
okay there has been no more footage uh

1861
01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:38,159
the pentagon looks like that cooperation

1862
01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:40,159
whatever was there like you're talking

1863
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:41,600
about where some event said we've got

1864
01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:43,520
the you know the support

1865
01:16:47,189 --> 01:16:46,320
it it that appears to have ended why do

1866
01:16:49,510 --> 01:16:47,199
you think

1867
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:49,520
we haven't seen anything uh for three

1868
01:16:52,070 --> 01:16:50,960
years three and a half i have a strong

1869
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:52,080
opinion

1870
01:16:56,870 --> 01:16:56,400
have a communication with them they

1871
01:16:59,910 --> 01:16:56,880
don't

1872
01:17:01,750 --> 01:16:59,920
information i have to

1873
01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:01,760
make these assessments based upon the

1874
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:03,360
substantial amount of information in the

1875
01:17:07,590 --> 01:17:04,320
public domain

1876
01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:07,600
right but my my opinion is this

1877
01:17:14,790 --> 01:17:10,960
that their their project was

1878
01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:14,800
their plan was to announce the ttsa

1879
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:16,640
after clinton was elected during the

1880
01:17:19,350 --> 01:17:17,840
transition period

1881
01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:19,360
walk the stories down to the new york

1882
01:17:23,830 --> 01:17:21,040
times which would then come out

1883
01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:23,840
you know december of 2016 while she

1884
01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:25,360
while still in the transition she's not

1885
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:26,800
even in the white house

1886
01:17:30,709 --> 01:17:28,320
and probably other stuff would have come

1887
01:17:31,510 --> 01:17:30,719
out so when clinton walks into the white

1888
01:17:33,510 --> 01:17:31,520
house

1889
01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:33,520
in addition to all those hundreds of

1890
01:17:36,470 --> 01:17:34,640
articles in the media

1891
01:17:37,750 --> 01:17:36,480
which had excited a lot of people around

1892
01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:37,760
the world clinton

1893
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:39,280
clinton actually said she was going to

1894
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:41,040
release the files she said we're going

1895
01:17:43,110 --> 01:17:42,480
to create a study program and all this

1896
01:17:44,390 --> 01:17:43,120
kind of stuff

1897
01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:44,400
and they're thinking well something

1898
01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:46,400
something's happening and then then the

1899
01:17:50,950 --> 01:17:47,920
ttsa makes that move

1900
01:17:53,110 --> 01:17:50,960
in in november of 2016.

1901
01:17:55,510 --> 01:17:53,120
and so when she walks in the white house

1902
01:17:57,430 --> 01:17:55,520
the world is literally on fire about the

1903
01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:57,440
possibility that hillary clinton is

1904
01:18:01,669 --> 01:17:58,080
going to

1905
01:18:04,149 --> 01:18:01,679
it

1906
01:18:05,510 --> 01:18:04,159
the back the the platform was set the

1907
01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:05,520
media was on board

1908
01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:07,199
she's going to go down in history as one

1909
01:18:10,950 --> 01:18:08,880
of the greatest presidents of all time

1910
01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:10,960
when she loses of course that goes out

1911
01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:13,120
the window and now what they're faced

1912
01:18:17,270 --> 01:18:15,120
with okay

1913
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:17,280
we've sort of semi-outed ourselves

1914
01:18:19,830 --> 01:18:18,400
actually

1915
01:18:21,669 --> 01:18:19,840
they didn't out themselves that much was

1916
01:18:22,790 --> 01:18:21,679
wikileaks it really outed this something

1917
01:18:24,470 --> 01:18:22,800
big was happening

1918
01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:24,480
and now we have a different president

1919
01:18:27,669 --> 01:18:26,480
who is definitely not hillary clinton

1920
01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:27,679
what the hell do we do

1921
01:18:31,030 --> 01:18:28,880
well what they did was they just went

1922
01:18:31,990 --> 01:18:31,040
silent and i am sure there was a lot of

1923
01:18:34,790 --> 01:18:32,000
turmoil and

1924
01:18:37,270 --> 01:18:34,800
rethinking imagine some people quit and

1925
01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:37,280
the question was do they go forward

1926
01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:40,960
and i think that in their mind

1927
01:18:44,950 --> 01:18:42,239
that the principal thing they were

1928
01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:44,960
concerned about as they decided whether

1929
01:18:49,030 --> 01:18:45,760
to launch at

1930
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:49,040
all uh and then what to do afterwards

1931
01:18:53,669 --> 01:18:51,840
was this what they're trying to achieve

1932
01:18:55,510 --> 01:18:53,679
is as i've said many times the most

1933
01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:55,520
profound event in human history

1934
01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:57,600
it is incredibly complex it will have

1935
01:19:02,310 --> 01:18:59,440
enormous implications

1936
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:02,320
they know that they're not stupid and

1937
01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:04,159
that they had to decide

1938
01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:07,600
that well this particular presidency

1939
01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:10,640
is unusual it is not

1940
01:19:14,070 --> 01:19:13,040
typical it's not even it's totally off

1941
01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:14,080
the scale

1942
01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:17,280
and almost immediately there is chaos

1943
01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:20,640
there's political chaos uh the media is

1944
01:19:23,669 --> 01:19:22,719
up in arms nobody knows what's going on

1945
01:19:26,070 --> 01:19:23,679
and they're thinking

1946
01:19:28,149 --> 01:19:26,080
do we dare try to make this maneuver in

1947
01:19:29,350 --> 01:19:28,159
the middle of this chaos in other words

1948
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:29,360
would you go out in the middle of a

1949
01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:31,679
force uh category four hurricane and try

1950
01:19:35,590 --> 01:19:32,880
to play tennis

1951
01:19:37,430 --> 01:19:35,600
no of course not so you weren't first

1952
01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:37,440
you're referring to

1953
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:40,000
post the new york times article and the

1954
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:41,600
release of the videos

1955
01:19:45,189 --> 01:19:43,440
no no i'm referring to from the get-go

1956
01:19:45,750 --> 01:19:45,199
okay from the moment trump walks in the

1957
01:19:47,830 --> 01:19:45,760
white house

1958
01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:47,840
but they have to decide do we go forward

1959
01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:50,080
at all yeah but what i'm referring to is

1960
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:52,080
after those three videos after the new

1961
01:19:57,750 --> 01:19:53,600
york times articles

1962
01:20:00,630 --> 01:19:57,760
and moving into 2018 to today

1963
01:20:01,110 --> 01:20:00,640
right it's been three years there hasn't

1964
01:20:03,110 --> 01:20:01,120
been

1965
01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:03,120
any other so we're still kicking the

1966
01:20:06,629 --> 01:20:04,480
same dead horse

1967
01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:06,639
oh no no no no no no no no i think uh

1968
01:20:10,149 --> 01:20:08,159
let me let me help let me help you there

1969
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:10,159
sure uh the first decision they had to

1970
01:20:13,990 --> 01:20:11,520
make was do we launch it all

1971
01:20:15,669 --> 01:20:14,000
so they waited 11 months so during that

1972
01:20:16,709 --> 01:20:15,679
11 months they're assessing the

1973
01:20:18,310 --> 01:20:16,719
administration

1974
01:20:20,790 --> 01:20:18,320
they're accessing assessing the

1975
01:20:23,110 --> 01:20:20,800
political uh situation

1976
01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:23,120
how chaotic is it going to get will it

1977
01:20:26,950 --> 01:20:23,920
settle down

1978
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:26,960
what's going to go on but also know that

1979
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:29,520
the disclosure movement never stopped

1980
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:31,360
there the public's interest in the

1981
01:20:34,790 --> 01:20:33,120
subject was escalated dramatically

1982
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:34,800
during the campaign as we talked about

1983
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:35,600
earlier

1984
01:20:38,950 --> 01:20:37,600
and it wasn't going to go away and so

1985
01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:38,960
they're kind of hung

1986
01:20:43,110 --> 01:20:40,480
they're they're they're hanging out

1987
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:43,120
there like uh you know on a rope between

1988
01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:43,840
two cliffs

1989
01:20:47,030 --> 01:20:45,440
what do you do do we go forward we can't

1990
01:20:48,390 --> 01:20:47,040
go forward should we go can't go

1991
01:20:50,550 --> 01:20:48,400
backward can we go forward

1992
01:20:51,990 --> 01:20:50,560
and i think ultimately they realized

1993
01:20:53,590 --> 01:20:52,000
that the idea that they could maybe just

1994
01:20:54,470 --> 01:20:53,600
wait four years and see what happens was

1995
01:20:57,510 --> 01:20:54,480
not an option

1996
01:20:59,189 --> 01:20:57,520
plus these men they they they took an

1997
01:21:01,990 --> 01:20:59,199
enormous commitment

1998
01:21:03,110 --> 01:21:02,000
they they they have other things they

1999
01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:03,120
could do with their life

2000
01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:05,280
and so they're just sitting there uh you

2001
01:21:09,030 --> 01:21:06,880
know i guess i don't know

2002
01:21:09,910 --> 01:21:09,040
maybe taking some projects maybe going

2003
01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:09,920
to the beach

2004
01:21:13,030 --> 01:21:11,040
and and i think at some point they

2005
01:21:14,470 --> 01:21:13,040
realize we we simply cannot wait we must

2006
01:21:14,950 --> 01:21:14,480
launch and so they make the decision to

2007
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:14,960
launch

2008
01:21:21,990 --> 01:21:19,440
they send the stories to the new york

2009
01:21:23,430 --> 01:21:22,000
times and to see what happens in other

2010
01:21:25,430 --> 01:21:23,440
words at that point it's like take a

2011
01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:25,440
step forward see what happens and decide

2012
01:21:29,189 --> 01:21:28,320
what to do next and what happened was in

2013
01:21:31,270 --> 01:21:29,199
spite of

2014
01:21:32,709 --> 01:21:31,280
the imp power of those two new york

2015
01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:32,719
times articles and all the media

2016
01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:35,679
generated and it was a lot that was a

2017
01:21:40,070 --> 01:21:37,120
lot of money in fact

2018
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:40,080
i've got 600 up i'm approaching 700

2019
01:21:44,550 --> 01:21:40,719
articles

2020
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:44,560
to the ttsa

2021
01:21:47,830 --> 01:21:47,280
700 but it was a huge press and guess

2022
01:21:49,750 --> 01:21:47,840
what

2023
01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:49,760
that the chaos of the political

2024
01:21:52,390 --> 01:21:51,520
situation in washington and the united

2025
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:52,400
states

2026
01:21:56,790 --> 01:21:55,440
sucked it all up it just subsumed it and

2027
01:21:58,629 --> 01:21:56,800
before you know it

2028
01:21:59,830 --> 01:21:58,639
that got to shove down and then

2029
01:22:02,390 --> 01:21:59,840
everything is about

2030
01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:02,400
the political whatever and they realize

2031
01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:03,280
well

2032
01:22:06,310 --> 01:22:05,440
you know it's not going to catch fire

2033
01:22:08,870 --> 01:22:06,320
all right we

2034
01:22:11,189 --> 01:22:08,880
we put something out and so i think they

2035
01:22:13,110 --> 01:22:11,199
made the decision okay

2036
01:22:14,709 --> 01:22:13,120
now we have to go forward but we're

2037
01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:14,719
going to pace it

2038
01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:16,800
it's like a runner that wants to finish

2039
01:22:19,750 --> 01:22:17,840
the race

2040
01:22:21,430 --> 01:22:19,760
and if they go too fast it's going to

2041
01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:21,440
not make it but if you if you're running

2042
01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:23,199
a reasonable pace you make it and so

2043
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:24,000
they decided to

2044
01:22:28,390 --> 01:22:26,400
start slow walking it moving forward

2045
01:22:31,510 --> 01:22:28,400
with the idea that the next

2046
01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:31,520
major decision point will be after the

2047
01:22:33,910 --> 01:22:33,199
next election depending upon how that

2048
01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:33,920
goes

2049
01:22:37,270 --> 01:22:36,480
and so over the next three years you saw

2050
01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:37,280
a slow

2051
01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:40,239
pace of developments which if they had

2052
01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:41,840
happened in a short amount of time

2053
01:22:45,270 --> 01:22:43,840
would have been unbelievably significant

2054
01:22:48,149 --> 01:22:45,280
but because they were stretched out

2055
01:22:49,110 --> 01:22:48,159
people weren't picking it up but boy has

2056
01:22:51,830 --> 01:22:49,120
a lot happened

2057
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:51,840
all right so they get the new york times

2058
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:52,960
articles

2059
01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:55,120
uh fine another one of their projects

2060
01:22:57,990 --> 01:22:56,560
they went forward with they went forward

2061
01:23:00,950 --> 01:22:58,000
with the show on history channel

2062
01:23:01,990 --> 01:23:00,960
unidentified inside america's secret ufo

2063
01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:02,000
investigation

2064
01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:04,880
uh which is ended up running for two

2065
01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:05,520
seasons

2066
01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:07,120
they were able to get information out

2067
01:23:09,910 --> 01:23:09,120
there and advance it kind of careful not

2068
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:09,920
a big deal

2069
01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:12,800
history channel is not abc uh decent

2070
01:23:15,669 --> 01:23:14,320
audience but not huge and it's the

2071
01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:15,679
history channel right

2072
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:17,840
uh so okay but that had that had some

2073
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:19,120
positive impact

2074
01:23:23,030 --> 01:23:21,440
and i was watching that and they were

2075
01:23:24,550 --> 01:23:23,040
interfaced they were trying to interface

2076
01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:24,560
with the public but it was tough

2077
01:23:28,229 --> 01:23:26,560
because they're under very strong

2078
01:23:29,590 --> 01:23:28,239
restrictions they have a lot of

2079
01:23:31,430 --> 01:23:29,600
restrictions they have to deal with it's

2080
01:23:33,030 --> 01:23:31,440
not easy for them at all

2081
01:23:34,870 --> 01:23:33,040
uh and so that was happening and i'm

2082
01:23:38,629 --> 01:23:34,880
going okay and the pace wasn't

2083
01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:38,639
it wasn't too fast uh but

2084
01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:40,639
the next major thing really the next

2085
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:42,400
major project after getting the

2086
01:23:47,430 --> 01:23:45,280
the history channel show out the door

2087
01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:47,440
and i didn't learn about this until

2088
01:23:55,270 --> 01:23:51,280
wow 2019

2089
01:23:58,310 --> 01:23:55,280
early is and this is part of their plan

2090
01:24:01,669 --> 01:23:58,320
again but slowly much more slowly

2091
01:24:04,070 --> 01:24:01,679
melon who was the political guy

2092
01:24:05,669 --> 01:24:04,080
went to the hill and started taking

2093
01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:05,679
meetings

2094
01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:09,440
appropriately

2095
01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:11,520
because they didn't want anything to

2096
01:24:15,350 --> 01:24:13,360
catch fire but they needed to start

2097
01:24:16,629 --> 01:24:15,360
laying the groundwork for what they that

2098
01:24:18,390 --> 01:24:16,639
they intended to do

2099
01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:18,400
and so melon goes on the hill and he

2100
01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:20,320
starts arranging meetings with committee

2101
01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:21,600
chairs

2102
01:24:25,910 --> 01:24:24,400
uh and he brings in some of the pilots

2103
01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:25,920
as far as we know it was primarily

2104
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:26,880
pilots that were

2105
01:24:30,229 --> 01:24:28,320
sitting in on some of these meetings but

2106
01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:30,239
it could have been others but basically

2107
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:30,800
they were

2108
01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:35,280
i don't i know i don't think there were

2109
01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:37,040
official dod briefings

2110
01:24:41,030 --> 01:24:39,040
the articles like from politico and

2111
01:24:43,030 --> 01:24:41,040
other other publications

2112
01:24:45,510 --> 01:24:43,040
said that they were dod briefings i

2113
01:24:48,629 --> 01:24:45,520
think that is a mistake i think this was

2114
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:48,639
melon and ttsa setting these up not the

2115
01:24:52,629 --> 01:24:51,040
department of defense i could be wrong

2116
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:52,639
but that was my understanding and so

2117
01:24:54,870 --> 01:24:53,840
they're meeting with these people on the

2118
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:54,880
hill and i'm going well that's

2119
01:24:57,510 --> 01:24:55,840
significant

2120
01:24:58,950 --> 01:24:57,520
and the only reason we knew about that

2121
01:24:59,669 --> 01:24:58,960
is a couple of the people that were

2122
01:25:02,950 --> 01:24:59,679
briefed

2123
01:25:06,070 --> 01:25:02,960
for whatever reason acknowledged it

2124
01:25:09,110 --> 01:25:06,080
they didn't say details or anything uh

2125
01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:09,120
uh uh let's see mark walker

2126
01:25:14,790 --> 01:25:12,400
uh mark warner that's right that's right

2127
01:25:16,550 --> 01:25:14,800
and then uh gene shaheen a senator so

2128
01:25:18,550 --> 01:25:16,560
they mentioned it

2129
01:25:20,709 --> 01:25:18,560
and that was supposed to be it now a

2130
01:25:21,430 --> 01:25:20,719
couple of these people actually did

2131
01:25:24,070 --> 01:25:21,440
something

2132
01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:24,080
now mark warner is on the senate

2133
01:25:26,390 --> 01:25:25,280
intelligence committee

2134
01:25:28,229 --> 01:25:26,400
ranking member of the senate

2135
01:25:29,669 --> 01:25:28,239
intelligence that's right with mark we

2136
01:25:32,470 --> 01:25:29,679
knew that

2137
01:25:34,550 --> 01:25:32,480
we knew mark walker mark walker did

2138
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:34,560
something he wasn't supposed to do

2139
01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:37,199
remember these are off the record

2140
01:25:42,149 --> 01:25:39,440
private meetings to inform them

2141
01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:42,159
no action is expected but walker got a

2142
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:43,360
little pumped up

2143
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:45,520
and so he's fired off a letter to the

2144
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:47,440
secretary of navy spencer

2145
01:25:50,709 --> 01:25:49,600
basically saying i i heard from these

2146
01:25:51,910 --> 01:25:50,719
pilots and there's something going on

2147
01:25:53,270 --> 01:25:51,920
here and this is significant and why

2148
01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:53,280
aren't you doing more

2149
01:25:56,470 --> 01:25:54,880
and spencer sent him something back

2150
01:25:57,270 --> 01:25:56,480
saying you know usual stuff well you

2151
01:25:59,189 --> 01:25:57,280
know we

2152
01:26:00,550 --> 01:25:59,199
uh we're always interested or whatever

2153
01:26:01,189 --> 01:26:00,560
he didn't like that and he complained

2154
01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:01,199
about it

2155
01:26:04,629 --> 01:26:02,880
then spencer got fired i don't know if

2156
01:26:05,590 --> 01:26:04,639
that was connected at all but ran around

2157
01:26:08,229 --> 01:26:05,600
the same time

2158
01:26:08,629 --> 01:26:08,239
walker was supposed to do that right and

2159
01:26:10,629 --> 01:26:08,639
so

2160
01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:10,639
then he shuts up all right and we don't

2161
01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:12,800
hear from him now

2162
01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:16,080
at one point in an interview uh

2163
01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:18,880
well maybe this way it was clear from a

2164
01:26:21,750 --> 01:26:20,320
number of statements that were made

2165
01:26:23,669 --> 01:26:21,760
that there were a lot of these meetings

2166
01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:23,679
going on how many we don't know

2167
01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:25,520
but there's only so many committee

2168
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:27,040
chairs and that's who you want to talk

2169
01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:27,600
to

2170
01:26:31,830 --> 01:26:30,400
non-committee chairs or ranking members

2171
01:26:33,189 --> 01:26:31,840
but that's who you talk to

2172
01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:33,199
if you if you're planning what i think

2173
01:26:34,950 --> 01:26:34,560
they're planning and so it could have

2174
01:26:37,669 --> 01:26:34,960
been 10

2175
01:26:39,430 --> 01:26:37,679
20 30 but whatever these are meetings

2176
01:26:40,229 --> 01:26:39,440
the pilots are talking to them melanie's

2177
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:40,239
talking to them

2178
01:26:44,229 --> 01:26:42,800
and and giving them a briefing but we're

2179
01:26:44,870 --> 01:26:44,239
not hearing about it and that goes on

2180
01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:44,880
for a while

2181
01:26:49,430 --> 01:26:47,280
let me ask you this before the break i

2182
01:26:53,270 --> 01:26:49,440
want to get this question in

2183
01:26:56,629 --> 01:26:53,280
do you think that melon was

2184
01:26:59,750 --> 01:26:56,639
using the verbiage ufos

2185
01:27:00,870 --> 01:26:59,760
et's alien technology not from planet

2186
01:27:04,070 --> 01:27:00,880
earth

2187
01:27:04,870 --> 01:27:04,080
is that the way into capitol hill or is

2188
01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:04,880
he using

2189
01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:06,880
other verbiage just to get the

2190
01:27:12,229 --> 01:27:08,400
conversation going

2191
01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:12,239
the key verbiage is national security

2192
01:27:19,030 --> 01:27:16,000
potential threat right no no

2193
01:27:21,350 --> 01:27:19,040
no little green men attackers from mars

2194
01:27:22,709 --> 01:27:21,360
right no that's not where he's going and

2195
01:27:23,110 --> 01:27:22,719
they and they don't say that in their

2196
01:27:25,270 --> 01:27:23,120
public

2197
01:27:26,950 --> 01:27:25,280
they avoid that they that is something

2198
01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:26,960
they cannot say and they don't say

2199
01:27:30,709 --> 01:27:29,040
though it's not easy for them

2200
01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:30,719
right but and we can talk about that we

2201
01:27:33,270 --> 01:27:31,920
can talk about all the restrictions

2202
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:33,280
they're operating under

2203
01:27:36,310 --> 01:27:34,960
but no they they are approaching these

2204
01:27:39,189 --> 01:27:36,320
committee chairs

2205
01:27:40,790 --> 01:27:39,199
with matters of national security uh

2206
01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:40,800
there's plenty of that associated with

2207
01:27:45,110 --> 01:27:42,000
et issue

2208
01:27:46,070 --> 01:27:45,120
right and uh the potential threat and

2209
01:27:48,229 --> 01:27:46,080
sometimes it's called

2210
01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:48,239
threat i i would never use threat but

2211
01:27:51,669 --> 01:27:49,360
it's potential threat

2212
01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:51,679
and that's exactly what you have to say

2213
01:27:54,149 --> 01:27:52,400
to people

2214
01:27:55,910 --> 01:27:54,159
on the hill if you want to get their

2215
01:27:56,470 --> 01:27:55,920
attention and it's also true of top end

2216
01:27:59,830 --> 01:27:56,480
media

2217
01:28:01,590 --> 01:27:59,840
attention you need to put it into a

2218
01:28:02,390 --> 01:28:01,600
context that is comfortable and national

2219
01:28:04,629 --> 01:28:02,400
security

2220
01:28:05,750 --> 01:28:04,639
is comfortable now we try the field the

2221
01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:05,760
disclosure movement

2222
01:28:09,189 --> 01:28:07,360
that i'm in has been trying to do that

2223
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:09,199
for years but we're not

2224
01:28:15,430 --> 01:28:13,360
former 30 year old cia

2225
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:15,440
uh people we're not top level

2226
01:28:19,030 --> 01:28:16,560
intelligence guys

2227
01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:19,040
so people weren't taking us quite as

2228
01:28:24,229 --> 01:28:19,920
seriously

2229
01:28:25,189 --> 01:28:24,239
we need to take a break right here and

2230
01:28:27,669 --> 01:28:25,199
before we do

2231
01:28:28,629 --> 01:28:27,679
i want to remind everybody that last

2232
01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:28,639
year

2233
01:28:32,149 --> 01:28:30,880
and talking about national security and

2234
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:32,159
what is going on

2235
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:34,880
last year websites shared over 100

2236
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:37,520
trillion pieces of personal data

2237
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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight stephen

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bassett is here live from washington dc

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we're discussing the new biden

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administration january 20 2021

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new sheriff in town what is going to

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happen with disclosure and of course the

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ufo question as we head through the year

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and stephen we were just discussing

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before the break uh the senate

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intelligence committee i just got

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uh the press release uh out about

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uh marco rubio uh you are quoted in this

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we'll get to this in a second but

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i was just reading uh this uh during the

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break

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and i want you to get us all up to speed

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on that because this is what we

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are talking about now um one of the

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things

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when it comes to the senate intelligence

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committee

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and those politicians in in washington

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what we were talking about before the

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break

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is the verbiage that is used and

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i'm not so sure if i was a reporter if i

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went up to a member

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of the senate intelligence committee and

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said hey

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you know so you guys are are talking to

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the navy

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about ufos that i think that

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somebody would spin their head around

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and say no that's not what we were

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talking about we were talking about

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threats

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and and what is going on in the airspace

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and and keeping

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america safe uh we weren't talking about

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little green men

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is that the response i would probably

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if they were asked they would give a i

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think a sensible response

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they weren't asked so

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don't know but again uh let me try to

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provide you the

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all-important context because we are

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going to get to divide administration

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what's i think going to happen believe

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me

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uh but uh uh consider this

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uh well let me let me talk about rubio

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everything that you've been seeing since

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october

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since the new york times article in one

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way or another has been a response to

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that article

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in other words the article they they

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announced okay they launched themselves

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in october of 2016 okay 5 17

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16. but so what it's when they deliver

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the stories to the new york times that

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the game is afoot

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01:36:19,830 --> 01:36:17,840
all right it it can't it's not going

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01:36:21,669 --> 01:36:19,840
back and so one of two things were going

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01:36:24,950 --> 01:36:21,679
to happen at that point

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01:36:28,629 --> 01:36:24,960
either one the forces of of embargo

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01:36:31,510 --> 01:36:28,639
truth embargo would rise up and just

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01:36:32,470 --> 01:36:31,520
push them back into the closet right and

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they'd all end up

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i don't know taking retirement and

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01:36:37,350 --> 01:36:36,080
moving to nice sunny climates and

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01:36:40,470 --> 01:36:37,360
playing golf

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01:36:42,870 --> 01:36:40,480
or if the forces could not do that if

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if if the rubicon had been crossed and

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we were only going to go forward

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then what they would have to do is start

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responding to this

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and there has been and this is what when

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you talked about what's happened since

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the new york times article

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01:36:56,629 --> 01:36:55,119
and i'm saying a lot has happened and

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almost all of it comes under the heading

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of

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the institutions responding to

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what just happened in other words what

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these guys have done

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this this new york times article and so

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forth and

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one of the things that we've talked

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about is that eventually they went to

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the hill and started having meetings

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all right and those meetings have been

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kept

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private with a few exceptions mark

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walker

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was one he was out of line he shut up

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all right and then uh

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we got a political response and this

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time

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it was coming from someone far more

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powerful than mark walker

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and that was uh rubio all right and so

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01:37:39,990 --> 01:37:37,840
what happened not that long ago we're

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talking back in that june

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01:37:44,310 --> 01:37:42,719
is that apparently as a response to the

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briefing that they had gotten from melon

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01:37:47,430 --> 01:37:45,440
and whatever witnesses the

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melon brought with them that was given

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01:37:50,950 --> 01:37:48,800
to both rubio and

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01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:50,960
the ranking member mark warner these are

2455
01:37:54,950 --> 01:37:53,040
two big guys in the senate

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01:37:56,950 --> 01:37:54,960
they made a decision which i believe was

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rubio's i think he's the one that

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that wrote it he's the one that wanted

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01:38:02,629 --> 01:38:00,000
it

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01:38:03,990 --> 01:38:02,639
not necessarily uh uh warner but i could

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01:38:06,390 --> 01:38:04,000
be wrong

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01:38:08,709 --> 01:38:06,400
that we're gonna make a move here and

2463
01:38:10,790 --> 01:38:08,719
the move was very clever

2464
01:38:13,830 --> 01:38:10,800
it was let's put in the senate

2465
01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:13,840
intelligence appropriations bill

2466
01:38:17,990 --> 01:38:16,480
some language that says hey uh we've

2467
01:38:19,430 --> 01:38:18,000
been hearing about all this information

2468
01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:19,440
and the pilot reports

2469
01:38:22,470 --> 01:38:21,360
we need to know more we want you to

2470
01:38:24,550 --> 01:38:22,480
start providing some

2471
01:38:26,390 --> 01:38:24,560
some in from info to us we want the

2472
01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:26,400
files it's just like clinton one of the

2473
01:38:29,830 --> 01:38:27,760
files everybody wants the files

2474
01:38:32,629 --> 01:38:29,840
and so we're going to put it in there

2475
01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:32,639
and we're going to give you 180 days

2476
01:38:36,629 --> 01:38:34,960
from the time that the bill is signed

2477
01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:36,639
to provide those files to the senate

2478
01:38:41,189 --> 01:38:38,159
intelligence committee

2479
01:38:44,390 --> 01:38:41,199
so what's going on here right understand

2480
01:38:46,229 --> 01:38:44,400
and by the way the back

2481
01:38:47,990 --> 01:38:46,239
in the context for everything i'm saying

2482
01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:48,000
is this and i want your listeners to

2483
01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:49,040
keep this

2484
01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:51,520
emphatically in mind all the stuff

2485
01:38:53,830 --> 01:38:53,440
that's happening is great but understand

2486
01:38:55,590 --> 01:38:53,840
this

2487
01:38:58,950 --> 01:38:55,600
the united states government has been

2488
01:39:02,070 --> 01:38:58,960
investigating et phenomena for 70 years

2489
01:39:04,070 --> 01:39:02,080
seven days a week 52 weeks a year

2490
01:39:05,910 --> 01:39:04,080
they have programs up the yin yang they

2491
01:39:07,910 --> 01:39:05,920
are all deeply classified

2492
01:39:09,350 --> 01:39:07,920
uh they there's tons of people inside

2493
01:39:10,149 --> 01:39:09,360
the government that know about the et

2494
01:39:12,070 --> 01:39:10,159
presence

2495
01:39:13,510 --> 01:39:12,080
are actually dealing with it in one form

2496
01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:13,520
or another and so

2497
01:39:17,350 --> 01:39:15,840
everything that's happening is in that

2498
01:39:18,149 --> 01:39:17,360
context in other words it's kind of a

2499
01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:18,159
game

2500
01:39:21,590 --> 01:39:20,320
there's the whole thing over here and

2501
01:39:22,709 --> 01:39:21,600
then there's what's happening in front

2502
01:39:24,629 --> 01:39:22,719
of you right now

2503
01:39:26,629 --> 01:39:24,639
but we can't acknowledge the other so we

2504
01:39:29,990 --> 01:39:26,639
have to do what we do okay

2505
01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:30,000
so rubio comes up with this is brilliant

2506
01:39:34,629 --> 01:39:32,800
what has he done first of all rubio has

2507
01:39:35,430 --> 01:39:34,639
just inserted himself in the disclosure

2508
01:39:37,590 --> 01:39:35,440
process

2509
01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:37,600
one of the few republicans to do it

2510
01:39:41,830 --> 01:39:39,280
period all right

2511
01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:41,840
uh mark walker was republican so he sort

2512
01:39:46,470 --> 01:39:43,600
of inserted himself but he's not

2513
01:39:48,149 --> 01:39:46,480
uh rubio and so rubio's inserted himself

2514
01:39:50,470 --> 01:39:48,159
in the process which puts him

2515
01:39:52,390 --> 01:39:50,480
in play and ahead of the game but he's

2516
01:39:54,550 --> 01:39:52,400
done it in a totally safe way

2517
01:39:56,229 --> 01:39:54,560
because what he's asked for ain't going

2518
01:39:57,510 --> 01:39:56,239
to come until next year

2519
01:39:59,350 --> 01:39:57,520
in fact that bill hasn't even been

2520
01:40:00,870 --> 01:39:59,360
signed by the president yet so it'll

2521
01:40:02,790 --> 01:40:00,880
probably maybe get signed later this

2522
01:40:04,870 --> 01:40:02,800
year maybe i don't know end of november

2523
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:04,880
descent

2524
01:40:10,629 --> 01:40:08,080
and it's not until june of next year and

2525
01:40:12,310 --> 01:40:10,639
rubio's not up for election right i

2526
01:40:14,470 --> 01:40:12,320
think warner is but he's a lock

2527
01:40:16,390 --> 01:40:14,480
and so ruby's totally safe for him and

2528
01:40:19,030 --> 01:40:16,400
he's in play and he's part of the issue

2529
01:40:19,830 --> 01:40:19,040
that's him responding to the ongoing

2530
01:40:22,070 --> 01:40:19,840
developments

2531
01:40:23,030 --> 01:40:22,080
so basically it was a transactional

2532
01:40:25,030 --> 01:40:23,040
thing

2533
01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:25,040
not so much rubio becoming the leader of

2534
01:40:27,189 --> 01:40:26,480
the disclosure movement but hey i'm one

2535
01:40:28,870 --> 01:40:27,199
in the game

2536
01:40:30,310 --> 01:40:28,880
i see what's going down okay so you got

2537
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:30,320
that that's cool and that's what that

2538
01:40:32,310 --> 01:40:30,960
was about

2539
01:40:35,750 --> 01:40:32,320
nothing more nothing less now keep in

2540
01:40:38,790 --> 01:40:35,760
mind that that as i deadline of 180 days

2541
01:40:41,189 --> 01:40:38,800
the uh the agencies they they can

2542
01:40:42,229 --> 01:40:41,199
provide files sooner than that though

2543
01:40:44,149 --> 01:40:42,239
probably not until the

2544
01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:44,159
until after the bill is signed so keep

2545
01:40:47,109 --> 01:40:45,760
that in your mind for a second as we go

2546
01:40:48,709 --> 01:40:47,119
back to talk about a couple other things

2547
01:40:51,189 --> 01:40:48,719
and i'll come back to this

2548
01:40:52,709 --> 01:40:51,199
the other thing that was going on in the

2549
01:40:53,030 --> 01:40:52,719
in the three years that we you referred

2550
01:40:56,149 --> 01:40:53,040
to

2551
01:40:57,590 --> 01:40:56,159
is this i'm pretty sure about this i

2552
01:40:59,669 --> 01:40:57,600
could be wrong and i stan

2553
01:41:01,189 --> 01:40:59,679
i'm happy to be corrected by any ttsc

2554
01:41:02,070 --> 01:41:01,199
people i just call me up and say you got

2555
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:02,080
it wrong steve

2556
01:41:05,350 --> 01:41:03,440
here's the way it is i'll say fine i'll

2557
01:41:08,550 --> 01:41:05,360
correct it

2558
01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:08,560
when the ttsa launched in october 2016

2559
01:41:12,070 --> 01:41:10,560
they hadn't sent out an email to the

2560
01:41:12,709 --> 01:41:12,080
rest of the government prior to doing

2561
01:41:14,310 --> 01:41:12,719
that

2562
01:41:16,470 --> 01:41:14,320
they didn't send an email to the navy

2563
01:41:17,830 --> 01:41:16,480
and the air force and the army and nasa

2564
01:41:19,590 --> 01:41:17,840
and lockheed and the defense

2565
01:41:21,750 --> 01:41:19,600
department's front office saying hey

2566
01:41:23,510 --> 01:41:21,760
we're going to launch this project

2567
01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:23,520
we're going to be going out looking for

2568
01:41:26,709 --> 01:41:25,360
research and getting involved in et

2569
01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:26,719
issue and what have you

2570
01:41:30,629 --> 01:41:28,960
uh-uh had they done that the forces of

2571
01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:30,639
darkness would have shut them down

2572
01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:34,000
fast and so when they went public

2573
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:35,760
not just the launch but also the new

2574
01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:37,520
york times articles they caught the rest

2575
01:41:41,910 --> 01:41:38,880
of the government pretty much

2576
01:41:43,189 --> 01:41:41,920
flat footed they got surprised there

2577
01:41:44,870 --> 01:41:43,199
might have been some rumors

2578
01:41:47,510 --> 01:41:44,880
floating around in the lunchroom and the

2579
01:41:49,189 --> 01:41:47,520
dod maybe but in terms of the official

2580
01:41:50,950 --> 01:41:49,199
rest of the government institutions they

2581
01:41:53,189 --> 01:41:50,960
didn't see it coming and so

2582
01:41:54,629 --> 01:41:53,199
whoa what are you going to do well they

2583
01:41:58,070 --> 01:41:54,639
couldn't shut it down

2584
01:42:00,390 --> 01:41:58,080
and so they had to respond and you start

2585
01:42:02,149 --> 01:42:00,400
seeing these responses one after another

2586
01:42:03,750 --> 01:42:02,159
not they're paced out remember i talked

2587
01:42:06,070 --> 01:42:03,760
about the slow walk

2588
01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:06,080
one of the first to respond was the navy

2589
01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:07,840
you see the navy really got caught with

2590
01:42:11,030 --> 01:42:09,119
his pants down

2591
01:42:12,390 --> 01:42:11,040
because what did they do they delivered

2592
01:42:14,390 --> 01:42:12,400
all these gun camera footage they were

2593
01:42:15,590 --> 01:42:14,400
all navy gun camera footers from navy

2594
01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:15,600
f-18s

2595
01:42:19,270 --> 01:42:17,199
of all these craft flying around their

2596
01:42:22,229 --> 01:42:19,280
aircraft carriers unimpeded

2597
01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:22,239
and worse they the navy's known about it

2598
01:42:26,149 --> 01:42:22,960
since uh the

2599
01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:26,159
2004 and never said anything they shut

2600
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:27,280
people up they took

2601
01:42:31,189 --> 01:42:29,119
they took the hard drives and so the

2602
01:42:32,390 --> 01:42:31,199
navy is kind of in a pretty embarrassing

2603
01:42:33,830 --> 01:42:32,400
situation isn't it

2604
01:42:35,830 --> 01:42:33,840
it's not looking good for the navy they

2605
01:42:38,629 --> 01:42:35,840
didn't want this so what do you do

2606
01:42:40,629 --> 01:42:38,639
well you get on board in other words if

2607
01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:40,639
we've crossed the rubicon as the train

2608
01:42:43,830 --> 01:42:42,480
is leaving the station and you want to

2609
01:42:45,109 --> 01:42:43,840
be in the right side of history you

2610
01:42:47,350 --> 01:42:45,119
better get on that train

2611
01:42:49,109 --> 01:42:47,360
and so the navy started playing ball

2612
01:42:50,550 --> 01:42:49,119
first thing it did was announce and i've

2613
01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:50,560
got the articles to back all this up

2614
01:42:54,229 --> 01:42:52,159
the first thing it did was announce

2615
01:42:57,189 --> 01:42:54,239
we're altering the protocols for

2616
01:42:58,550 --> 01:42:57,199
our pilots to report right these things

2617
01:43:00,070 --> 01:42:58,560
right so we don't want this to slip

2618
01:43:02,629 --> 01:43:00,080
through the tracks okay fine

2619
01:43:03,830 --> 01:43:02,639
the next thing they did was to say we've

2620
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:03,840
actually set up a

2621
01:43:06,870 --> 01:43:05,520
system and we're encouraging our pilots

2622
01:43:09,669 --> 01:43:06,880
to report and so forth

2623
01:43:11,109 --> 01:43:09,679
okay that was nice okay and then they

2624
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:11,119
really did something cool again

2625
01:43:14,629 --> 01:43:13,280
some time goes by and then what do they

2626
01:43:18,149 --> 01:43:14,639
do the navy comes out

2627
01:43:21,350 --> 01:43:18,159
and confirms that the video clips

2628
01:43:24,550 --> 01:43:21,360
were in fact of navy planes intercepting

2629
01:43:27,350 --> 01:43:24,560
uaps that was a big deal

2630
01:43:28,790 --> 01:43:27,360
a very big deal they did one thing in

2631
01:43:31,030 --> 01:43:28,800
that press release

2632
01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:31,040
uh where i don't know if they were

2633
01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:32,320
covering their bases

2634
01:43:35,430 --> 01:43:34,080
or how you know they want to play both

2635
01:43:37,430 --> 01:43:35,440
sides

2636
01:43:38,470 --> 01:43:37,440
but one of the things that susan gao

2637
01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:38,480
said

2638
01:43:46,790 --> 01:43:41,760
was that there is nothing in these

2639
01:43:49,669 --> 01:43:46,800
videos that shows classified technology

2640
01:43:51,510 --> 01:43:49,679
oh i feel so sorry for her you see susan

2641
01:43:54,229 --> 01:43:51,520
gal that's defense spokesman

2642
01:43:55,189 --> 01:43:54,239
she was caught completely unawares it

2643
01:43:58,070 --> 01:43:55,199
hit her

2644
01:43:58,629 --> 01:43:58,080
uh totally blindsided her she had no

2645
01:44:00,470 --> 01:43:58,639
idea

2646
01:44:01,750 --> 01:44:00,480
and so that thing breaks and suddenly

2647
01:44:03,669 --> 01:44:01,760
everybody's coming to the

2648
01:44:05,189 --> 01:44:03,679
pentagon's office wanting to know what's

2649
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:05,199
going on and she doesn't know what's

2650
01:44:08,709 --> 01:44:06,080
going on

2651
01:44:09,590 --> 01:44:08,719
and so uh the pentagon was in a really

2652
01:44:11,270 --> 01:44:09,600
tough position

2653
01:44:12,790 --> 01:44:11,280
and as a result made a number of

2654
01:44:14,390 --> 01:44:12,800
incorrect statements

2655
01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:14,400
got things wrong made this statement

2656
01:44:17,510 --> 01:44:16,000
that they were just yeah they they made

2657
01:44:18,229 --> 01:44:17,520
a fool of them i don't think they wanted

2658
01:44:20,709 --> 01:44:18,239
to

2659
01:44:21,350 --> 01:44:20,719
but the pentagon front office did not

2660
01:44:23,030 --> 01:44:21,360
know

2661
01:44:24,229 --> 01:44:23,040
that this thing was being launched and

2662
01:44:25,109 --> 01:44:24,239
those articles were heading to the new

2663
01:44:26,550 --> 01:44:25,119
york times

2664
01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:26,560
and so she said a number of things you

2665
01:44:31,270 --> 01:44:28,400
can just dismiss it all

2666
01:44:33,189 --> 01:44:31,280
now eventually the pentagon caught up

2667
01:44:34,070 --> 01:44:33,199
with the situation okay and realized

2668
01:44:35,830 --> 01:44:34,080
okay

2669
01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:35,840
the uh the horses are out of the barn

2670
01:44:39,350 --> 01:44:37,360
let's settle up and

2671
01:44:40,870 --> 01:44:39,360
ride along and so the pentagon did

2672
01:44:42,070 --> 01:44:40,880
something very important what did the

2673
01:44:44,550 --> 01:44:42,080
pennant gun do

2674
01:44:46,470 --> 01:44:44,560
it confirmed that they released those

2675
01:44:47,669 --> 01:44:46,480
videos and confirmed that those videos

2676
01:44:49,990 --> 01:44:47,679
were legitimate

2677
01:44:50,709 --> 01:44:50,000
that was significant the army got on

2678
01:44:52,550 --> 01:44:50,719
board

2679
01:44:54,629 --> 01:44:52,560
did something it didn't have to do it

2680
01:44:57,189 --> 01:44:54,639
announced that it set up a

2681
01:44:59,510 --> 01:44:57,199
a crota which is a cooperative research

2682
01:45:02,390 --> 01:44:59,520
and development project with the ttsa

2683
01:45:02,709 --> 01:45:02,400
to look at the materials right material

2684
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:02,719
and

2685
01:45:06,950 --> 01:45:05,920
have to do that's not a big deal but

2686
01:45:08,950 --> 01:45:06,960
that was the air

2687
01:45:10,229 --> 01:45:08,960
the army's way of saying hey we're

2688
01:45:12,709 --> 01:45:10,239
hiding to help here

2689
01:45:14,629 --> 01:45:12,719
we're we're given legitimacy to it it's

2690
01:45:15,510 --> 01:45:14,639
not a big deal but we're part and parcel

2691
01:45:18,390 --> 01:45:15,520
okay good

2692
01:45:19,669 --> 01:45:18,400
again you're seeing responses to this

2693
01:45:22,149 --> 01:45:19,679
going forward one

2694
01:45:23,910 --> 01:45:22,159
after another after another and then of

2695
01:45:25,109 --> 01:45:23,920
course you've got the responses from

2696
01:45:27,030 --> 01:45:25,119
from rubio

2697
01:45:28,229 --> 01:45:27,040
and so that's what was going on over

2698
01:45:31,750 --> 01:45:28,239
these three years

2699
01:45:33,189 --> 01:45:31,760
as we move forward now

2700
01:45:35,270 --> 01:45:33,199
while they they really started slow

2701
01:45:35,990 --> 01:45:35,280
walking but things started to come back

2702
01:45:38,709 --> 01:45:36,000
to life

2703
01:45:40,550 --> 01:45:38,719
uh earlier this year as they started to

2704
01:45:41,669 --> 01:45:40,560
get a better assessment of the political

2705
01:45:45,270 --> 01:45:41,679
outcome

2706
01:45:47,669 --> 01:45:45,280
lewis uh christopher mellon

2707
01:45:49,109 --> 01:45:47,679
uh launched his twitter account in april

2708
01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:49,119
of of this year

2709
01:45:52,390 --> 01:45:50,800
and started using that to communicate

2710
01:45:54,229 --> 01:45:52,400
which is a very good way to do it

2711
01:45:56,070 --> 01:45:54,239
elizondo got his twitter account going

2712
01:45:57,189 --> 01:45:56,080
in august and they started talking to

2713
01:45:59,270 --> 01:45:57,199
people and having little

2714
01:46:02,310 --> 01:45:59,280
uh q and a's and stuff on twitter all

2715
01:46:05,350 --> 01:46:02,320
good kind of just getting more involved

2716
01:46:07,270 --> 01:46:05,360
so what what are they expecting

2717
01:46:09,109 --> 01:46:07,280
all right to put it as simply as

2718
01:46:12,390 --> 01:46:09,119
possible

2719
01:46:14,550 --> 01:46:12,400
the ttsa understands that if they're

2720
01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:14,560
going to complete this project

2721
01:46:18,390 --> 01:46:16,560
it needs to be in the most stable

2722
01:46:21,189 --> 01:46:18,400
political environment

2723
01:46:21,750 --> 01:46:21,199
that is possible at the time the more

2724
01:46:23,990 --> 01:46:21,760
stable

2725
01:46:25,270 --> 01:46:24,000
the better you don't make a move like

2726
01:46:27,270 --> 01:46:25,280
this in the middle of a bar

2727
01:46:28,390 --> 01:46:27,280
fight right you don't walk into a bar

2728
01:46:29,910 --> 01:46:28,400
fight and

2729
01:46:32,390 --> 01:46:29,920
and start to i don't know talk

2730
01:46:33,590 --> 01:46:32,400
philosophy or try to get consensus on

2731
01:46:34,870 --> 01:46:33,600
something you're just going to get hit

2732
01:46:36,470 --> 01:46:34,880
in the head of the chair

2733
01:46:37,990 --> 01:46:36,480
and so they're assessing it and they're

2734
01:46:40,629 --> 01:46:38,000
seeing it go forward

2735
01:46:41,830 --> 01:46:40,639
now eventually they there were four

2736
01:46:43,750 --> 01:46:41,840
possible outcomes

2737
01:46:45,109 --> 01:46:43,760
that they were looking at in terms of

2738
01:46:48,390 --> 01:46:45,119
their next major move

2739
01:46:50,870 --> 01:46:48,400
and they were straightforward trump wins

2740
01:46:52,390 --> 01:46:50,880
republicans hold the senate trump loses

2741
01:46:54,790 --> 01:46:52,400
republican holds the senate

2742
01:46:55,590 --> 01:46:54,800
biden wins republicans hold the senate

2743
01:46:58,709 --> 01:46:55,600
biden wins

2744
01:46:59,910 --> 01:46:58,719
republicans lose the senate now

2745
01:47:01,910 --> 01:46:59,920
what would be the most stable

2746
01:47:03,750 --> 01:47:01,920
environment i think

2747
01:47:05,430 --> 01:47:03,760
my assessment my view opinion is this

2748
01:47:08,709 --> 01:47:05,440
the most stable environment

2749
01:47:09,590 --> 01:47:08,719
is that the president the house

2750
01:47:11,590 --> 01:47:09,600
the house and the senate and the

2751
01:47:13,350 --> 01:47:11,600
president are all the same party the

2752
01:47:14,310 --> 01:47:13,360
same party controls the committee chairs

2753
01:47:17,990 --> 01:47:14,320
in both

2754
01:47:20,950 --> 01:47:18,000
uh the size of the the aisle um

2755
01:47:21,590 --> 01:47:20,960
and therefore you have less partisanship

2756
01:47:23,189 --> 01:47:21,600
you might

2757
01:47:26,229 --> 01:47:23,199
move forward more quickly that would be

2758
01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:26,239
ideal the next best would be

2759
01:47:30,550 --> 01:47:29,440
uh probably biden winning senate's hold

2760
01:47:31,910 --> 01:47:30,560
the house

2761
01:47:34,229 --> 01:47:31,920
and the republicans still hold the

2762
01:47:36,070 --> 01:47:34,239
senate but it's close right one apart

2763
01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:36,080
that wouldn't be too bad uh

2764
01:47:40,149 --> 01:47:37,840
so what's going to happen well

2765
01:47:42,550 --> 01:47:40,159
eventually it became clear

2766
01:47:43,830 --> 01:47:42,560
that trump was probably going to lose

2767
01:47:45,590 --> 01:47:43,840
okay fine

2768
01:47:47,189 --> 01:47:45,600
so i think that prompted them to pick

2769
01:47:48,950 --> 01:47:47,199
things up a little bit

2770
01:47:51,109 --> 01:47:48,960
and now we know that the senate is

2771
01:47:53,109 --> 01:47:51,119
possibly could go either way

2772
01:47:54,870 --> 01:47:53,119
so essentially at one point i think they

2773
01:47:57,990 --> 01:47:54,880
realize it's a go

2774
01:48:00,550 --> 01:47:58,000
it's a go for next year so what

2775
01:48:01,430 --> 01:48:00,560
is next year this is what i'm going to

2776
01:48:04,390 --> 01:48:01,440
be talking about

2777
01:48:05,830 --> 01:48:04,400
on dozens if not scores of interviews

2778
01:48:06,470 --> 01:48:05,840
over the next three months i'm lining up

2779
01:48:08,149 --> 01:48:06,480
interviews

2780
01:48:10,310 --> 01:48:08,159
like crazy i've been out of the game for

2781
01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:10,320
a while i'm ready to get back as soon as

2782
01:48:15,030 --> 01:48:12,320
i can get my vocabulary going

2783
01:48:15,669 --> 01:48:15,040
so what i believe the agenda all along

2784
01:48:19,750 --> 01:48:15,679
has been

2785
01:48:23,270 --> 01:48:19,760
this the pathway to disclosure

2786
01:48:25,270 --> 01:48:23,280
responsibly appropriately should be

2787
01:48:26,870 --> 01:48:25,280
and always should have been through

2788
01:48:29,270 --> 01:48:26,880
congressional hearings

2789
01:48:30,550 --> 01:48:29,280
which is why for years we have tried to

2790
01:48:32,229 --> 01:48:30,560
get congressional hearings

2791
01:48:34,390 --> 01:48:32,239
there have been many attempts to get

2792
01:48:35,350 --> 01:48:34,400
them the last congressional hearing was

2793
01:48:38,550 --> 01:48:35,360
68

2794
01:48:39,669 --> 01:48:38,560
it was one day the the testimony was

2795
01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:39,679
quite legitimate

2796
01:48:44,390 --> 01:48:42,159
and serious but the hearing wasn't it

2797
01:48:45,189 --> 01:48:44,400
was all part of a wrap it up here we did

2798
01:48:47,270 --> 01:48:45,199
something

2799
01:48:49,430 --> 01:48:47,280
uh now let's move along folks leave us

2800
01:48:50,950 --> 01:48:49,440
alone uh the next year is when they shut

2801
01:48:52,149 --> 01:48:50,960
down blue book that's right right hey

2802
01:48:53,750 --> 01:48:52,159
we're not studying anything then they

2803
01:48:56,790 --> 01:48:53,760
moved to close down night cap

2804
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:56,800
that was that was 68 that was 58

2805
01:49:01,109 --> 01:49:00,480
52 years ago okay so we tried to get

2806
01:49:03,189 --> 01:49:01,119
hearings

2807
01:49:04,709 --> 01:49:03,199
greer tried a couple of times i tried to

2808
01:49:06,390 --> 01:49:04,719
get hearings there were two or three

2809
01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:06,400
other attempts i'm aware of they didn't

2810
01:49:09,270 --> 01:49:06,880
work

2811
01:49:11,350 --> 01:49:09,280
you just couldn't get them there wasn't

2812
01:49:13,910 --> 01:49:11,360
a critical mass to get it done

2813
01:49:15,189 --> 01:49:13,920
all right okay fine but that's the way

2814
01:49:19,109 --> 01:49:15,199
it has to be

2815
01:49:21,589 --> 01:49:19,119
because here's why that's appropriate

2816
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:21,599
you hold hearings you bring in

2817
01:49:25,510 --> 01:49:23,360
high-level witnesses

2818
01:49:27,669 --> 01:49:25,520
they testify for a couple of weeks under

2819
01:49:30,390 --> 01:49:27,679
oath with hundreds of millions of people

2820
01:49:32,709 --> 01:49:30,400
watching around the world

2821
01:49:34,310 --> 01:49:32,719
and at some point enough evidence has

2822
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:34,320
been clearly stated

2823
01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:36,480
that the dod and the white house and and

2824
01:49:39,270 --> 01:49:38,080
and leaders of congress can get together

2825
01:49:40,070 --> 01:49:39,280
and say well it's pretty clear from the

2826
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:40,080
evidence

2827
01:49:44,390 --> 01:49:42,400
this is non-human this is a non-human

2828
01:49:46,310 --> 01:49:44,400
technology we're dealing with here

2829
01:49:48,070 --> 01:49:46,320
and i think it's time to confirm that

2830
01:49:49,990 --> 01:49:48,080
and the president makes a confirmation

2831
01:49:52,070 --> 01:49:50,000
which would almost be anticlimactic and

2832
01:49:53,430 --> 01:49:52,080
so everybody wins the congress wins both

2833
01:49:54,070 --> 01:49:53,440
parties win the president wins the

2834
01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:54,080
people win

2835
01:49:58,470 --> 01:49:56,960
the dod wins everybody wins it has to be

2836
01:50:00,950 --> 01:49:58,480
through congressional hearings

2837
01:50:01,750 --> 01:50:00,960
which is why i spent a small fortune

2838
01:50:04,030 --> 01:50:01,760
holding

2839
01:50:05,589 --> 01:50:04,040
the citizen hearing on disclosure in

2840
01:50:07,990 --> 01:50:05,599
2013

2841
01:50:09,270 --> 01:50:08,000
to show all the members of congress who

2842
01:50:11,669 --> 01:50:09,280
bothered ever look at it

2843
01:50:13,589 --> 01:50:11,679
and the journalists and so forth what

2844
01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:13,599
hearings like that would be like

2845
01:50:16,790 --> 01:50:15,360
i mean they knew how to hold hearings i

2846
01:50:18,790 --> 01:50:16,800
wasn't telling them that

2847
01:50:19,910 --> 01:50:18,800
i was saying here's what the testimony

2848
01:50:24,070 --> 01:50:19,920
would be like

2849
01:50:26,390 --> 01:50:24,080
it's really cool

2850
01:50:27,189 --> 01:50:26,400
it's pretty intense that was the reason

2851
01:50:28,950 --> 01:50:27,199
i did it

2852
01:50:30,229 --> 01:50:28,960
maybe it helped i don't know right and

2853
01:50:31,910 --> 01:50:30,239
then i launched the political initiative

2854
01:50:34,149 --> 01:50:31,920
under clinton's election campaign

2855
01:50:35,669 --> 01:50:34,159
so that's the way it has to be and i

2856
01:50:38,950 --> 01:50:35,679
think they totally agree

2857
01:50:39,750 --> 01:50:38,960
and so what is going on melon went up on

2858
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:39,760
the hill

2859
01:50:44,709 --> 01:50:41,760
to hold the meetings with the committee

2860
01:50:45,189 --> 01:50:44,719
chairs in preparation for hearings next

2861
01:50:48,310 --> 01:50:45,199
year

2862
01:50:50,830 --> 01:50:48,320
do you consider yeah let me let me do

2863
01:50:52,310 --> 01:50:50,840
you consider mellon like a proxy

2864
01:50:55,109 --> 01:50:52,320
lobbyist

2865
01:50:56,550 --> 01:50:55,119
yeah no well he is he is basically

2866
01:50:57,189 --> 01:50:56,560
lobbying i don't think he's a registered

2867
01:50:59,030 --> 01:50:57,199
lobbyist

2868
01:51:01,510 --> 01:50:59,040
right he's not is he i don't think he's

2869
01:51:03,750 --> 01:51:01,520
no no but he's a political professional

2870
01:51:05,669 --> 01:51:03,760
known on the hill with contacts he can

2871
01:51:07,109 --> 01:51:05,679
speak to any committee chair at the

2872
01:51:09,830 --> 01:51:07,119
highest level

2873
01:51:10,550 --> 01:51:09,840
right he's he's he's major league pro no

2874
01:51:12,870 --> 01:51:10,560
they will take

2875
01:51:14,950 --> 01:51:12,880
his phone call there's no doubt about it

2876
01:51:16,390 --> 01:51:14,960
so and and of course but so but when he

2877
01:51:18,390 --> 01:51:16,400
goes up on the hill

2878
01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:18,400
all the spade work has been done they

2879
01:51:23,350 --> 01:51:21,280
have they have generated massive media

2880
01:51:25,030 --> 01:51:23,360
they have brought forward scores of

2881
01:51:25,830 --> 01:51:25,040
witnesses that was one of the key things

2882
01:51:27,350 --> 01:51:25,840
they had to do

2883
01:51:29,189 --> 01:51:27,360
was the witness issue that's the other

2884
01:51:31,350 --> 01:51:29,199
thing i haven't mentioned what do i mean

2885
01:51:33,270 --> 01:51:31,360
well one of the effects of the new york

2886
01:51:36,149 --> 01:51:33,280
times articles

2887
01:51:37,669 --> 01:51:36,159
was to really lower the bar for

2888
01:51:39,510 --> 01:51:37,679
witnesses to come forward

2889
01:51:41,830 --> 01:51:39,520
we've had witnesses coming forward for

2890
01:51:44,149 --> 01:51:41,840
decades but not a lot

2891
01:51:45,589 --> 01:51:44,159
because you know it's not necessarily a

2892
01:51:47,030 --> 01:51:45,599
good idea

2893
01:51:48,790 --> 01:51:47,040
and if you're military you've got

2894
01:51:49,830 --> 01:51:48,800
security clearance all these reasons why

2895
01:51:51,669 --> 01:51:49,840
it best if i just

2896
01:51:52,950 --> 01:51:51,679
don't say anything but with those

2897
01:51:54,550 --> 01:51:52,960
articles coming forward and then the

2898
01:51:55,189 --> 01:51:54,560
pilot's coming forward fravor and the

2899
01:51:57,430 --> 01:51:55,199
others

2900
01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:57,440
and nothing happening to him there's

2901
01:52:01,830 --> 01:51:59,040
thousands of guys out there

2902
01:52:03,270 --> 01:52:01,840
and women who are going hey apparently

2903
01:52:04,070 --> 01:52:03,280
you can talk about this i've got some

2904
01:52:06,790 --> 01:52:04,080
great stories

2905
01:52:08,149 --> 01:52:06,800
let me come forward and so that set that

2906
01:52:10,470 --> 01:52:08,159
in motion

2907
01:52:11,669 --> 01:52:10,480
and then they launched the the series on

2908
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:11,679
history channel

2909
01:52:14,629 --> 01:52:12,880
and guess what they've been doing on

2910
01:52:16,629 --> 01:52:14,639
most of those history channels they've

2911
01:52:17,669 --> 01:52:16,639
been bringing military witnesses on to

2912
01:52:19,910 --> 01:52:17,679
talk about

2913
01:52:21,510 --> 01:52:19,920
events not just nimitz not just

2914
01:52:23,109 --> 01:52:21,520
roosevelt others

2915
01:52:25,990 --> 01:52:23,119
and guess what happened when they did

2916
01:52:26,229 --> 01:52:26,000
that more witnesses started contacting

2917
01:52:28,390 --> 01:52:26,239
him

2918
01:52:29,750 --> 01:52:28,400
elizondo is the point guard there he's

2919
01:52:31,589 --> 01:52:29,760
the one that's handling the witnesses

2920
01:52:33,589 --> 01:52:31,599
and he's the one that is vetting them

2921
01:52:34,629 --> 01:52:33,599
now the long mentioned at some point

2922
01:52:37,589 --> 01:52:34,639
that hundreds

2923
01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:37,599
of people have contacted the ttsa the

2924
01:52:41,270 --> 01:52:39,679
majority of which are military people

2925
01:52:43,030 --> 01:52:41,280
saying i got a story

2926
01:52:44,870 --> 01:52:43,040
and so for the last year and a half

2927
01:52:45,990 --> 01:52:44,880
while the same time melon's up on the

2928
01:52:47,589 --> 01:52:46,000
hill

2929
01:52:49,750 --> 01:52:47,599
preparing for hearings by talking to

2930
01:52:53,189 --> 01:52:49,760
committee chairs the ttsa

2931
01:52:56,229 --> 01:52:53,199
is is is taking testimony and vetting

2932
01:52:59,030 --> 01:52:56,239
military witnesses to events

2933
01:53:00,310 --> 01:52:59,040
related to quote uap phenomena now

2934
01:53:02,629 --> 01:53:00,320
they've got the witnesses

2935
01:53:04,550 --> 01:53:02,639
they've got the committee chairs and so

2936
01:53:06,390 --> 01:53:04,560
the plan is simple

2937
01:53:07,910 --> 01:53:06,400
shortly after the election i mean after

2938
01:53:09,669 --> 01:53:07,920
the inauguration

2939
01:53:11,510 --> 01:53:09,679
i believe you're suddenly going to learn

2940
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:11,520
that some uh

2941
01:53:16,550 --> 01:53:14,320
some hearings are going to take place

2942
01:53:19,030 --> 01:53:16,560
the hearings are going to be

2943
01:53:20,709 --> 01:53:19,040
almost exclusively taking the testimony

2944
01:53:23,669 --> 01:53:20,719
from military witnesses

2945
01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:23,679
only and the context of the hearings is

2946
01:53:30,229 --> 01:53:27,440
national security as related to

2947
01:53:32,870 --> 01:53:30,239
a potential threat from this quote

2948
01:53:35,109 --> 01:53:32,880
unidentified aerial phenomena

2949
01:53:36,149 --> 01:53:35,119
including nuclear weapons a tampering by

2950
01:53:39,270 --> 01:53:36,159
the way

2951
01:53:43,109 --> 01:53:39,280
and those hearings will quickly expand

2952
01:53:47,030 --> 01:53:43,119
both chain both the chambers uh

2953
01:53:47,669 --> 01:53:47,040
uh under oath and the the audience for

2954
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:47,679
these

2955
01:53:53,430 --> 01:53:50,719
hearings uh jimmy pick a number

2956
01:53:55,990 --> 01:53:53,440
200 million 300 million it might even

2957
01:53:57,430 --> 01:53:56,000
approach the level of the the olympics

2958
01:53:59,030 --> 01:53:57,440
these will be the most watched hearings

2959
01:54:01,990 --> 01:53:59,040
in all of history

2960
01:54:03,830 --> 01:54:02,000
and those hearings lead to disclosure

2961
01:54:05,189 --> 01:54:03,840
that is what i believe is coming i think

2962
01:54:07,270 --> 01:54:05,199
that was the agenda

2963
01:54:08,390 --> 01:54:07,280
all along except those hearings were to

2964
01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:08,400
start early in the

2965
01:54:12,229 --> 01:54:10,960
clinton administration not early in the

2966
01:54:14,229 --> 01:54:12,239
biden administration

2967
01:54:17,430 --> 01:54:14,239
have you you've been at this for so long

2968
01:54:20,629 --> 01:54:17,440
now have you ever heard joe biden

2969
01:54:23,510 --> 01:54:20,639
mention ufos no

2970
01:54:26,870 --> 01:54:23,520
but let's talk about joe let me give a

2971
01:54:30,310 --> 01:54:28,070
a lot of people may not have thought

2972
01:54:32,870 --> 01:54:30,320
about this

2973
01:54:33,750 --> 01:54:32,880
the primary political connection to the

2974
01:54:37,510 --> 01:54:33,760
et issue

2975
01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:37,520
is the clintons period no other

2976
01:54:40,950 --> 01:54:40,080
political group in the country has this

2977
01:54:43,030 --> 01:54:40,960
connection

2978
01:54:44,070 --> 01:54:43,040
it goes back to 93 and the rockefeller

2979
01:54:46,149 --> 01:54:44,080
initiative

2980
01:54:47,830 --> 01:54:46,159
and continues forward because the

2981
01:54:50,709 --> 01:54:47,840
clintons didn't let it go

2982
01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:50,719
after clinton left in 2001 they could

2983
01:54:53,510 --> 01:54:52,000
have let it go but no

2984
01:54:55,350 --> 01:54:53,520
and the person that basically kept

2985
01:54:57,910 --> 01:54:55,360
dropping the breadcrumbs was podesta

2986
01:54:58,790 --> 01:54:57,920
he was assigned the job of keeping this

2987
01:55:01,830 --> 01:54:58,800
issue

2988
01:55:02,149 --> 01:55:01,840
in our portfolio and he did two thousand

2989
01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:02,159
two

2990
01:55:05,990 --> 01:55:04,000
three four five six you could go on i

2991
01:55:07,030 --> 01:55:06,000
could talk a lot about that but most

2992
01:55:10,229 --> 01:55:07,040
people know about this

2993
01:55:11,589 --> 01:55:10,239
so podesta is keeping it alive even

2994
01:55:14,070 --> 01:55:11,599
president clinton made a couple of

2995
01:55:17,189 --> 01:55:14,080
remarks and interviews keeping it alive

2996
01:55:18,950 --> 01:55:17,199
why were they keeping it alive because

2997
01:55:22,470 --> 01:55:18,960
hillary clinton

2998
01:55:24,629 --> 01:55:22,480
left that uh when hit when bill's

2999
01:55:25,750 --> 01:55:24,639
term was over and she walked out they

3000
01:55:27,990 --> 01:55:25,760
walked out the door

3001
01:55:29,030 --> 01:55:28,000
hillary clinton was both angry and

3002
01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:29,040
determined

3003
01:55:34,149 --> 01:55:32,080
she was absolutely enraged that the air

3004
01:55:35,109 --> 01:55:34,159
force had completely bamboozled her

3005
01:55:37,030 --> 01:55:35,119
husband

3006
01:55:38,390 --> 01:55:37,040
spent 20 million dollars or something on

3007
01:55:41,270 --> 01:55:38,400
a totally bogus

3008
01:55:43,270 --> 01:55:41,280
whitewash report right that was it was

3009
01:55:45,669 --> 01:55:43,280
announced in 97

3010
01:55:47,430 --> 01:55:45,679
uh stonewalled him are you talking about

3011
01:55:50,550 --> 01:55:47,440
the the the gao

3012
01:55:52,709 --> 01:55:50,560
the the the roswell report

3013
01:55:54,629 --> 01:55:52,719
case will report and then and and then

3014
01:55:56,070 --> 01:55:54,639
and there but the air force report was

3015
01:55:59,030 --> 01:55:56,080
was proofed together it might have been

3016
01:56:01,270 --> 01:55:59,040
called case closed i forget yeah

3017
01:56:02,870 --> 01:56:01,280
this is sheila wignal who was a great

3018
01:56:05,990 --> 01:56:02,880
person and a superb

3019
01:56:06,629 --> 01:56:06,000
uh uh uh you know i think uh public

3020
01:56:09,350 --> 01:56:06,639
servant

3021
01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:09,360
but for whatever reason she signed off

3022
01:56:12,470 --> 01:56:10,400
on that report

3023
01:56:14,070 --> 01:56:12,480
so in other words they they they

3024
01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:14,080
stonewalled her husband

3025
01:56:17,430 --> 01:56:15,280
he could have been one of the greatest

3026
01:56:18,790 --> 01:56:17,440
presidents of all time not only that but

3027
01:56:19,990 --> 01:56:18,800
you know they they attacked him when

3028
01:56:21,750 --> 01:56:20,000
everything they could for eight years

3029
01:56:23,589 --> 01:56:21,760
impeached in all nine yards hey

3030
01:56:25,030 --> 01:56:23,599
he was not a perfect man the point is

3031
01:56:26,790 --> 01:56:25,040
that she left she was mad

3032
01:56:28,709 --> 01:56:26,800
and she was determined to do two things

3033
01:56:30,950 --> 01:56:28,719
one to be the first woman president

3034
01:56:33,030 --> 01:56:30,960
all right i think everybody agrees to

3035
01:56:34,229 --> 01:56:33,040
that but what they may not know

3036
01:56:36,310 --> 01:56:34,239
is that she intended to be the

3037
01:56:37,510 --> 01:56:36,320
disclosure president she was going to go

3038
01:56:39,750 --> 01:56:37,520
in the white house

3039
01:56:41,589 --> 01:56:39,760
and she was going to go to the dod and

3040
01:56:43,589 --> 01:56:41,599
she wasn't going to get stonewalled

3041
01:56:45,189 --> 01:56:43,599
because at that point there was enough

3042
01:56:46,709 --> 01:56:45,199
out there the our movement had worked

3043
01:56:48,310 --> 01:56:46,719
pretty well people were educated

3044
01:56:49,830 --> 01:56:48,320
and she was going to tell the dod people

3045
01:56:50,790 --> 01:56:49,840
either i get those files or you're all

3046
01:56:53,510 --> 01:56:50,800
going to be retired

3047
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:53,520
do you think it's a i've got two minutes

3048
01:57:01,030 --> 01:56:54,239
is this

3049
01:57:03,669 --> 01:57:01,040
republican issue

3050
01:57:05,510 --> 01:57:03,679
it is basically blue but it's not it's

3051
01:57:08,149 --> 01:57:05,520
simply because that's the way history

3052
01:57:09,109 --> 01:57:08,159
went because marco rubio i mean

3053
01:57:12,310 --> 01:57:09,119
seriously

3054
01:57:15,750 --> 01:57:12,320
that video came as close

3055
01:57:17,910 --> 01:57:15,760
to saying uh

3056
01:57:19,109 --> 01:57:17,920
you know little green men he was right

3057
01:57:20,790 --> 01:57:19,119
there right

3058
01:57:22,470 --> 01:57:20,800
oh they constantly dance around it yeah

3059
01:57:22,870 --> 01:57:22,480
they constantly dance around it but they

3060
01:57:25,510 --> 01:57:22,880
can't

3061
01:57:26,070 --> 01:57:25,520
actually say he was close he was close

3062
01:57:28,310 --> 01:57:26,080
he was

3063
01:57:29,109 --> 01:57:28,320
i don't know has gotten close it's all

3064
01:57:30,310 --> 01:57:29,119
gotten close

3065
01:57:32,310 --> 01:57:30,320
but they're not allowed to say it the

3066
01:57:33,830 --> 01:57:32,320
point is is that if george bush had won

3067
01:57:36,229 --> 01:57:33,840
the election

3068
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his second term instead of clinton

3069
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rockefeller

3070
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told several people that he fully

3071
01:57:42,310 --> 01:57:40,159
intended to go to george bush

3072
01:57:43,350 --> 01:57:42,320
and ask him for the files and we might

3073
01:57:45,350 --> 01:57:43,360
have gotten them

3074
01:57:46,390 --> 01:57:45,360
but it turned out to be clinton and that

3075
01:57:49,270 --> 01:57:46,400
so it was simply

3076
01:57:50,709 --> 01:57:49,280
his luck luck of history and and and and

3077
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the republicans could have embraced it

3078
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anytime but they never did

3079
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so it's it's your uh if you're gonna

3080
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have an

3081
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estimate of the situation i couldn't

3082
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wait to say that to you by the way

3083
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if you're gonna have if you're gonna

3084
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have an estimate of the situation

3085
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you're saying that it is solely because

3086
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it's not a republican democrat issue

3087
01:58:13,109 --> 01:58:10,880
it's that the atmosphere the temperature

3088
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is going to come down in washington

3089
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and that is going to allow this to move

3090
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forward

3091
01:58:21,510 --> 01:58:20,159
there's no bar fight going on look uh

3092
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hillary clinton the clintons were not

3093
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going to help george bush be the

3094
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disclosure president that's for damn

3095
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sure

3096
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they weren't going to do that then she

3097
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expected to win in 2008 and

3098
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history provided a you know

3099
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a change there she didn't win another

3100
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question was

3101
01:58:40,229 --> 01:58:38,480
do we help obama possibly go ahead and

3102
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do this it'll still be a democrats we'll

3103
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get grandfathered in

3104
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or do we wait it out ultimately she made

3105
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the decision to wait it out that's a

3106
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longer story

3107
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so again the threat has been carried

3108
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forward by the clintons but it is

3109
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ultimately a

3110
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non-partisan issue without question and

3111
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one of the reasons these hearings will

3112
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take place

3113
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is that boy i'll tell you the united

3114
01:59:02,870 --> 01:58:59,440
states congress desperately needs

3115
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a major non-partisan issue that they can

3116
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hold hearings on with millions of people

3117
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watching

3118
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and ask intelligent questions and not

3119
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have to posture and play political games

3120
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and everybody looks good

3121
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oh they need this really badly so that's

3122
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one of the reasons i think there won't

3123
01:59:18,070 --> 01:59:15,440
be too much resistance

3124
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well and it is a republican-controlled

3125
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senate

3126
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so far but yeah i think it's i think

3127
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it's going to stay that way but that

3128
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i don't think that's the issue i really

3129
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don't i think it's a

3130
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it's a world issue it's an american

3131
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issue it's not a republican democrat

3132
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i definitely think it's non-partisan it

3133
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has to be that way we're citizens of

3134
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earth

3135
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i think the democrats are almost

3136
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certainly going to one of the georgia

3137
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seats so it'll be 51-49

3138
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which is very tight and so i and i don't

3139
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i don't i don't see mcconnell

3140
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having any reason to push back against

3141
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hearings like this they do not in any

3142
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way threaten his political position

3143
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and they do offer an enormous

3144
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opportunity for these politicians to

3145
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look good

3146
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uh addressing in a proper and formal way

3147
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the most profound issue in human history

3148
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who doesn't want to do that that's right

3149
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because the stigma is off

3150
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i need to take a break right here so

3151
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this is a yes or no question

3152
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it's not up to mcconnell it's up to

3153
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marco rubio

3154
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isn't it for his committee look if the

3155
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senate majority leader wants to really

3156
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uh prevent hearings from going forward

3157
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he has a lot of leverage i'm not saying

3158
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it's absolute but

3159
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he could be obstructive but i don't

3160
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think he will be

3161
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if the even if they're holding the

3162
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senate let's take our break right here

3163
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our guest tonight stephen bassett

3164
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live from washington d.c we are talking

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about the new biden administration

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3167
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3285
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3286
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host jimmy church tonight stephen

3287
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bassett joins us

3288
02:06:10,870 --> 02:06:09,440
we're talking about all the action going

3289
02:06:13,270 --> 02:06:10,880
on in washington dc

3290
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uh we've got a new biden administration

3291
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3292
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3293
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3294
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3295
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3296
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that that should take place

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and and referencing this happening

3298
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in the first part of 2021 that's

3299
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exciting but i want to back up for a

3300
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second stephen

3301
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um uh all

3302
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of washington watches fox news

3303
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right they all watch

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steven's putting on his microphone i can

3305
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see him doing that

3306
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3307
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um let me turn this down as you adjust

3308
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even you're making a lot of noise

3309
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uh for the audience but is this they all

3310
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watch tucker

3311
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uh they've watched his ufo updates they

3312
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are quite a way they're not watching

3313
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history channel right they're not

3314
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3315
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watching fox news

3316
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and we just went through uh

3317
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an election cycle and an election year

3318
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and not one question

3319
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about the navy about the pilots

3320
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about ufos about disclosure was

3321
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presented to

3322
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any candidate by any journalist anywhere

3323
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any debate it it didn't happen

3324
02:07:41,270 --> 02:07:38,400
why not interesting point

3325
02:07:41,830 --> 02:07:41,280
well you as i stated uh there was

3326
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massive

3327
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e.t uh media coverage during the clinton

3328
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campaign and not a single was question

3329
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was asked

3330
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uh this time around there was just a

3331
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tiny bit very little

3332
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out there in the media about the

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political et connection

3334
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so it doesn't surprise me that no one in

3335
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those debates was asked now

3336
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this is a matter to be taken up one day

3337
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with all of those fine

3338
02:08:06,229 --> 02:08:03,840
multi-millionaires

3339
02:08:08,550 --> 02:08:06,239
that are hosting all the news shows that

3340
02:08:11,189 --> 02:08:08,560
end up getting the moderator jobs

3341
02:08:13,270 --> 02:08:11,199
so you got some eight million a year

3342
02:08:15,189 --> 02:08:13,280
news host who's who has full

3343
02:08:16,149 --> 02:08:15,199
cart blanche to ask any question they

3344
02:08:17,589 --> 02:08:16,159
want they're not supposed to be

3345
02:08:19,350 --> 02:08:17,599
influenced by anyone

3346
02:08:20,790 --> 02:08:19,360
and they're making these choices so i'd

3347
02:08:21,990 --> 02:08:20,800
like to sit down with all of them and

3348
02:08:23,669 --> 02:08:22,000
say hey

3349
02:08:25,109 --> 02:08:23,679
why why don't you go there and there's

3350
02:08:27,189 --> 02:08:25,119
other areas they don't go

3351
02:08:29,030 --> 02:08:27,199
so we we need to reform the whole debate

3352
02:08:29,990 --> 02:08:29,040
situation we need to reform a lot of

3353
02:08:32,950 --> 02:08:30,000
things but that's

3354
02:08:33,990 --> 02:08:32,960
the best answer i can give by the way

3355
02:08:36,310 --> 02:08:34,000
rubio

3356
02:08:37,830 --> 02:08:36,320
uh essentially is an example of someone

3357
02:08:40,149 --> 02:08:37,840
responding to

3358
02:08:41,109 --> 02:08:40,159
what is going down and so is tucker

3359
02:08:43,350 --> 02:08:41,119
tucker carlson

3360
02:08:44,310 --> 02:08:43,360
is an example of someone that figured

3361
02:08:46,390 --> 02:08:44,320
out hey

3362
02:08:47,589 --> 02:08:46,400
this is this is happening train's

3363
02:08:50,950 --> 02:08:47,599
leaving the station

3364
02:08:53,669 --> 02:08:50,960
and i'm gonna get on it and he did and

3365
02:08:54,550 --> 02:08:53,679
why others in the cnn and msnbc didn't i

3366
02:08:56,390 --> 02:08:54,560
don't know

3367
02:08:58,390 --> 02:08:56,400
tucker is kind of a renegade he got on

3368
02:08:59,910 --> 02:08:58,400
it so he has given more interviews on

3369
02:09:00,390 --> 02:08:59,920
this subject in the last three years

3370
02:09:02,950 --> 02:09:00,400
than

3371
02:09:04,310 --> 02:09:02,960
any other well maybe all of the rest of

3372
02:09:06,950 --> 02:09:04,320
the news host combined

3373
02:09:08,790 --> 02:09:06,960
good on him all right but again he's

3374
02:09:10,390 --> 02:09:08,800
responding to the reality

3375
02:09:12,709 --> 02:09:10,400
and let me make another point that i

3376
02:09:15,510 --> 02:09:12,719
think is important for context as people

3377
02:09:17,270 --> 02:09:15,520
follow this i have pretty high

3378
02:09:19,910 --> 02:09:17,280
confidence

3379
02:09:21,189 --> 02:09:19,920
that every single member of the ttsa

3380
02:09:21,669 --> 02:09:21,199
without getting into their you know

3381
02:09:24,390 --> 02:09:21,679
their

3382
02:09:24,709 --> 02:09:24,400
clerical staff or maybe a couple of uh

3383
02:09:26,069 --> 02:09:24,719
like

3384
02:09:28,069 --> 02:09:26,079
one of the financial people that was

3385
02:09:28,629 --> 02:09:28,079
just brought on the uh as a board member

3386
02:09:30,229 --> 02:09:28,639
recently

3387
02:09:32,229 --> 02:09:30,239
but every the key initial founders you

3388
02:09:33,270 --> 02:09:32,239
know i'm talking about every single one

3389
02:09:35,270 --> 02:09:33,280
of them knows there's an

3390
02:09:37,270 --> 02:09:35,280
extraterrestrial presence

3391
02:09:38,870 --> 02:09:37,280
they just can't say it and i respect

3392
02:09:42,069 --> 02:09:38,880
that i understand why they can't

3393
02:09:43,589 --> 02:09:42,079
but they know all right so to get back

3394
02:09:45,350 --> 02:09:43,599
to biden

3395
02:09:47,109 --> 02:09:45,360
you asked me about what about joe and

3396
02:09:50,149 --> 02:09:47,119
his connection to the issue

3397
02:09:52,310 --> 02:09:50,159
here's here's the way to think about it

3398
02:09:53,270 --> 02:09:52,320
the number one connection between

3399
02:09:55,510 --> 02:09:53,280
politics and e.t

3400
02:09:57,030 --> 02:09:55,520
issues the history of the clintons

3401
02:09:58,390 --> 02:09:57,040
during the clinton administration

3402
02:10:00,310 --> 02:09:58,400
and during the rockefeller initiative

3403
02:10:01,830 --> 02:10:00,320
which lasted for three years joe biden

3404
02:10:04,470 --> 02:10:01,840
was in the senate

3405
02:10:05,589 --> 02:10:04,480
and he worked closely with the president

3406
02:10:06,950 --> 02:10:05,599
on legislation

3407
02:10:08,390 --> 02:10:06,960
and plenty of people knew about the

3408
02:10:09,990 --> 02:10:08,400
rockefeller initiative it wasn't like

3409
02:10:11,430 --> 02:10:10,000
this was all a secret no

3410
02:10:12,870 --> 02:10:11,440
it was known they didn't talk about it

3411
02:10:14,229 --> 02:10:12,880
it was one of those well you know that's

3412
02:10:15,750 --> 02:10:14,239
going on but that's not something we're

3413
02:10:17,430 --> 02:10:15,760
going to talk to the press

3414
02:10:18,629 --> 02:10:17,440
so it's very likely biden knew something

3415
02:10:19,430 --> 02:10:18,639
like that was going on at the white

3416
02:10:21,830 --> 02:10:19,440
house

3417
02:10:23,030 --> 02:10:21,840
and then years go by what happens well

3418
02:10:26,790 --> 02:10:23,040
obama

3419
02:10:28,470 --> 02:10:26,800
wins uh the election and he picks biden

3420
02:10:31,589 --> 02:10:28,480
as his vice president

3421
02:10:34,310 --> 02:10:31,599
and he picks uh podesta as his

3422
02:10:35,750 --> 02:10:34,320
uh campaign a transition chairman to

3423
02:10:37,350 --> 02:10:35,760
form the new government

3424
02:10:38,390 --> 02:10:37,360
so he's obviously working with biden

3425
02:10:40,310 --> 02:10:38,400
during that period then he brings

3426
02:10:42,229 --> 02:10:40,320
hillary clinton into secretary of state

3427
02:10:43,510 --> 02:10:42,239
and so he got you know john podesta who

3428
02:10:44,550 --> 02:10:43,520
eventually comes into the white house as

3429
02:10:46,390 --> 02:10:44,560
an advisor

3430
02:10:47,910 --> 02:10:46,400
and hillary clinton's in there and biden

3431
02:10:49,669 --> 02:10:47,920
is the vice president you don't think

3432
02:10:50,550 --> 02:10:49,679
there wasn't an opportunity for the

3433
02:10:52,950 --> 02:10:50,560
clintons to

3434
02:10:54,390 --> 02:10:52,960
sort of bring joe up to speed i would

3435
02:10:57,669 --> 02:10:54,400
think that that was

3436
02:10:59,669 --> 02:10:57,679
uh a conversation more than once i would

3437
02:11:00,069 --> 02:10:59,679
think so and so joe's had plenty of time

3438
02:11:02,390 --> 02:11:00,079
to be

3439
02:11:04,229 --> 02:11:02,400
and he is a you know he's a careful man

3440
02:11:05,750 --> 02:11:04,239
he's a centrist a moderate

3441
02:11:07,430 --> 02:11:05,760
but he's a light he's liked and

3442
02:11:08,790 --> 02:11:07,440
respected and the idea they're going to

3443
02:11:09,270 --> 02:11:08,800
keep him out of the cold i don't think

3444
02:11:12,870 --> 02:11:09,280
so

3445
02:11:15,669 --> 02:11:12,880
said nothing

3446
02:11:17,830 --> 02:11:15,679
that's fine but don't be surprised if

3447
02:11:20,790 --> 02:11:17,840
when things go down next year

3448
02:11:21,830 --> 02:11:20,800
joe gets on board real fast all right

3449
02:11:23,189 --> 02:11:21,840
and that's fine

3450
02:11:25,990 --> 02:11:23,199
okay i don't i don't have a problem with

3451
02:11:29,589 --> 02:11:26,000
that so again the history of this

3452
02:11:31,350 --> 02:11:29,599
is primarily a democratic thing now

3453
02:11:33,910 --> 02:11:31,360
one of the advantages of hearings as i

3454
02:11:35,430 --> 02:11:33,920
pointed out is that

3455
02:11:36,950 --> 02:11:35,440
if you go through hearings to get the

3456
02:11:39,030 --> 02:11:36,960
disclosure

3457
02:11:40,149 --> 02:11:39,040
you're going to have extraordinary

3458
02:11:41,510 --> 02:11:40,159
testimony from

3459
02:11:42,629 --> 02:11:41,520
it'll all be military witnesses

3460
02:11:44,629 --> 02:11:42,639
initially you're not going to get to

3461
02:11:46,629 --> 02:11:44,639
civilians until later

3462
02:11:48,709 --> 02:11:46,639
and all of the republicans on these

3463
02:11:49,430 --> 02:11:48,719
committees will be able to ask important

3464
02:11:52,069 --> 02:11:49,440
questions

3465
02:11:52,629 --> 02:11:52,079
and and be seen on television doing that

3466
02:11:55,990 --> 02:11:52,639
and so

3467
02:11:57,109 --> 02:11:56,000
the republicans are given a chance to be

3468
02:11:58,870 --> 02:11:57,119
part of this they're going to get a

3469
02:12:00,470 --> 02:11:58,880
piece of the action as it were

3470
02:12:02,149 --> 02:12:00,480
and that's great and that's the way it

3471
02:12:04,149 --> 02:12:02,159
should be in other words the hearings

3472
02:12:05,910 --> 02:12:04,159
will de-partisanize this

3473
02:12:07,350 --> 02:12:05,920
even if the democrats control all the

3474
02:12:08,870 --> 02:12:07,360
committee chairs

3475
02:12:10,470 --> 02:12:08,880
because in most most of the hearings

3476
02:12:11,910 --> 02:12:10,480
that are held have been embarrassing

3477
02:12:14,390 --> 02:12:11,920
because they're mostly political and

3478
02:12:16,069 --> 02:12:14,400
hyper-partisan and everybody's posturing

3479
02:12:18,229 --> 02:12:16,079
and it's almost painful to watch

3480
02:12:19,669 --> 02:12:18,239
this will be totally different this will

3481
02:12:22,229 --> 02:12:19,679
be riveting

3482
02:12:23,669 --> 02:12:22,239
this will be exciting and it will be

3483
02:12:26,390 --> 02:12:23,679
empowerful

3484
02:12:26,790 --> 02:12:26,400
and people will be uh very pleased that

3485
02:12:28,870 --> 02:12:26,800
both

3486
02:12:29,990 --> 02:12:28,880
democrats and republicans are conducting

3487
02:12:34,950 --> 02:12:30,000
themselves well

3488
02:12:37,189 --> 02:12:34,960
and that's good i i wanted to ask you uh

3489
02:12:39,030 --> 02:12:37,199
about podesta for a second and i know

3490
02:12:42,390 --> 02:12:39,040
for this audience

3491
02:12:43,030 --> 02:12:42,400
just bringing up his name just stirs

3492
02:12:46,790 --> 02:12:43,040
emotion

3493
02:12:50,550 --> 02:12:46,800
and i get that shouldn't but uh oh well

3494
02:12:53,830 --> 02:12:50,560
let's just discuss it as soon as uh

3495
02:12:56,950 --> 02:12:53,840
the wikileaks dump happened

3496
02:12:57,990 --> 02:12:56,960
um and and i talked to delong i talked

3497
02:12:59,589 --> 02:12:58,000
to him on the phone when

3498
02:13:01,589 --> 02:12:59,599
all of that was going down as a matter

3499
02:13:03,830 --> 02:13:01,599
of fact i'll say something publicly

3500
02:13:07,430 --> 02:13:03,840
right now i've never mentioned before

3501
02:13:10,550 --> 02:13:07,440
after uh that day when the email

3502
02:13:12,870 --> 02:13:10,560
dump happened i'd gotten a uh an email

3503
02:13:15,910 --> 02:13:12,880
from tom the day before

3504
02:13:18,709 --> 02:13:15,920
and the dump happens i

3505
02:13:20,709 --> 02:13:18,719
sent tom an email dude what's going on

3506
02:13:24,229 --> 02:13:20,719
it got kicked back

3507
02:13:26,950 --> 02:13:24,239
right and uh later on that day i got an

3508
02:13:29,189 --> 02:13:26,960
email from tom this is my new email

3509
02:13:32,229 --> 02:13:29,199
right uh the other one's been shut down

3510
02:13:35,830 --> 02:13:32,239
podesta was silent and then

3511
02:13:36,550 --> 02:13:35,840
pizzagate happened and and podesta's

3512
02:13:41,270 --> 02:13:36,560
name

3513
02:13:43,510 --> 02:13:41,280
got muddied with the ufo situation and

3514
02:13:44,870 --> 02:13:43,520
and and tied into wikileaks and then of

3515
02:13:47,510 --> 02:13:44,880
course pizzagate

3516
02:13:48,870 --> 02:13:47,520
we've we haven't heard from podesta

3517
02:13:52,470 --> 02:13:48,880
since

3518
02:13:55,750 --> 02:13:54,629
well they lost the election for one

3519
02:13:58,790 --> 02:13:55,760
thing

3520
02:14:01,109 --> 02:13:58,800
and uh so at that point

3521
02:14:02,149 --> 02:14:01,119
but he was still fully engaged after the

3522
02:14:03,910 --> 02:14:02,159
election

3523
02:14:05,030 --> 02:14:03,920
no no i understand something hillary

3524
02:14:06,550 --> 02:14:05,040
clinton wanted to be disclosure

3525
02:14:08,550 --> 02:14:06,560
president she wanted to be a pr

3526
02:14:10,069 --> 02:14:08,560
first woman president she lost it that

3527
02:14:11,189 --> 02:14:10,079
opportunity was almost certainly lost

3528
02:14:14,229 --> 02:14:11,199
forever

3529
02:14:15,350 --> 02:14:14,239
and the clintons and podesta

3530
02:14:18,069 --> 02:14:15,360
could have they could have called a

3531
02:14:20,069 --> 02:14:18,079
press conference in february of 2017.

3532
02:14:21,589 --> 02:14:20,079
brought in top you know people maybe

3533
02:14:23,109 --> 02:14:21,599
marine dowd or something and sat down

3534
02:14:24,550 --> 02:14:23,119
and spilled the whole beans

3535
02:14:25,990 --> 02:14:24,560
could have told them everything

3536
02:14:27,189 --> 02:14:26,000
everything and their interest on the et

3537
02:14:28,550 --> 02:14:27,199
issue and why they thought it was real

3538
02:14:29,430 --> 02:14:28,560
and blah blah blah and blown the whole

3539
02:14:30,470 --> 02:14:29,440
thing up and you guess you know what

3540
02:14:31,430 --> 02:14:30,480
would happen

3541
02:14:33,189 --> 02:14:31,440
donald trump would have been the

3542
02:14:34,950 --> 02:14:33,199
disclosure president and she would

3543
02:14:36,550 --> 02:14:34,960
rather pull her toenails out with a pair

3544
02:14:39,669 --> 02:14:36,560
of pliers and have that happen

3545
02:14:41,990 --> 02:14:39,679
and so they went silent period it's the

3546
02:14:44,629 --> 02:14:42,000
ttsa to pick stuff up but they

3547
02:14:45,109 --> 02:14:44,639
went silent right but waiting for things

3548
02:14:48,229 --> 02:14:45,119
to change

3549
02:14:51,430 --> 02:14:48,239
podesta did do the interview on

3550
02:14:53,430 --> 02:14:51,440
ancient aliens you know little ancient

3551
02:14:54,709 --> 02:14:53,440
not much i mean just a little bit there

3552
02:14:56,709 --> 02:14:54,719
he was that's okay

3553
02:14:58,470 --> 02:14:56,719
so he had they had to go silent i get

3554
02:15:01,830 --> 02:14:58,480
that um

3555
02:15:04,950 --> 02:15:01,840
uh to be expected uh so and by the way

3556
02:15:07,030 --> 02:15:04,960
look you know

3557
02:15:07,990 --> 02:15:07,040
the united states has been in systemic

3558
02:15:11,189 --> 02:15:08,000
decline for

3559
02:15:12,310 --> 02:15:11,199
30 actually going back to 64 the last 30

3560
02:15:14,390 --> 02:15:12,320
years even worse

3561
02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:14,400
the internet came along we didn't ask

3562
02:15:18,950 --> 02:15:16,480
for it but by god we loved it

3563
02:15:20,709 --> 02:15:18,960
and we're living with it now and it's

3564
02:15:22,470 --> 02:15:20,719
it's no trivial thing

3565
02:15:24,149 --> 02:15:22,480
right it's not like oh gee we have the

3566
02:15:26,470 --> 02:15:24,159
internet it'll be nice no no no

3567
02:15:27,589 --> 02:15:26,480
incredibly powerful dangerous and

3568
02:15:30,390 --> 02:15:27,599
wonderful

3569
02:15:32,149 --> 02:15:30,400
piece of technology the last 30 years

3570
02:15:32,950 --> 02:15:32,159
has been pretty much everybody running

3571
02:15:35,189 --> 02:15:32,960
around

3572
02:15:36,870 --> 02:15:35,199
tossing dead skunks through other

3573
02:15:39,030 --> 02:15:36,880
people's windows

3574
02:15:41,270 --> 02:15:39,040
and stinking up the whole house so they

3575
02:15:43,510 --> 02:15:41,280
have to flee the back door

3576
02:15:45,109 --> 02:15:43,520
i get it right we're in a new age the

3577
02:15:47,589 --> 02:15:45,119
age of libel

3578
02:15:49,109 --> 02:15:47,599
right everybody libels everybody now the

3579
02:15:52,069 --> 02:15:49,119
law can't even keep up with it

3580
02:15:52,709 --> 02:15:52,079
i understand conspiracy theories are

3581
02:15:55,750 --> 02:15:52,719
literally

3582
02:15:59,030 --> 02:15:55,760
raging around like across the plains

3583
02:16:00,069 --> 02:15:59,040
um and it's the new reality we haven't

3584
02:16:03,430 --> 02:16:00,079
adjusted yet

3585
02:16:05,830 --> 02:16:03,440
and people are are uh

3586
02:16:07,109 --> 02:16:05,840
regular people are overwhelmed by the

3587
02:16:10,470 --> 02:16:07,119
massive communication

3588
02:16:12,229 --> 02:16:10,480
power of the net and social media all of

3589
02:16:14,149 --> 02:16:12,239
it right and the fact that

3590
02:16:15,430 --> 02:16:14,159
huge money and institutions are are

3591
02:16:17,910 --> 02:16:15,440
investing in in

3592
02:16:19,510 --> 02:16:17,920
propaganda through these channels and so

3593
02:16:20,870 --> 02:16:19,520
people's brains are being filled up with

3594
02:16:23,350 --> 02:16:20,880
stuff day in and day out

3595
02:16:25,589 --> 02:16:23,360
i feel sorry for everybody because not

3596
02:16:26,470 --> 02:16:25,599
everybody's got a phd or a degree in

3597
02:16:28,550 --> 02:16:26,480
science or

3598
02:16:29,669 --> 02:16:28,560
whatever just regular people trying to

3599
02:16:31,510 --> 02:16:29,679
make a life

3600
02:16:32,870 --> 02:16:31,520
and they've got stuff coming at them

3601
02:16:35,669 --> 02:16:32,880
from every direction

3602
02:16:37,589 --> 02:16:35,679
not simply randomly but people trying to

3603
02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:37,599
influence them alter their world view

3604
02:16:41,429 --> 02:16:39,679
pollute the situation and a lot of them

3605
02:16:44,070 --> 02:16:41,439
are basically state actors

3606
02:16:46,150 --> 02:16:44,080
who are pros with vast resources

3607
02:16:49,270 --> 02:16:46,160
designed to screw your mind up

3608
02:16:51,030 --> 02:16:49,280
uh hey when has that happened right

3609
02:16:52,629 --> 02:16:51,040
so we are in a new place and there have

3610
02:16:54,469 --> 02:16:52,639
been many casualties

3611
02:16:55,830 --> 02:16:54,479
there's going to be more and it's

3612
02:16:59,669 --> 02:16:55,840
affecting everything

3613
02:17:03,589 --> 02:16:59,679
all right and so all i can say is hey

3614
02:17:04,389 --> 02:17:03,599
i use my what i know and and learned in

3615
02:17:06,469 --> 02:17:04,399
my life

3616
02:17:08,549 --> 02:17:06,479
to assess these things as they come

3617
02:17:11,509 --> 02:17:08,559
along and do my best to sort

3618
02:17:14,150 --> 02:17:11,519
the propaganda from the reality other

3619
02:17:16,230 --> 02:17:14,160
people try to do the same some are

3620
02:17:17,589 --> 02:17:16,240
not as successful and so there may be

3621
02:17:19,509 --> 02:17:17,599
somebody out there that believes

3622
02:17:22,230 --> 02:17:19,519
pizzagate 100

3623
02:17:23,990 --> 02:17:22,240
i lived in washington i know that place

3624
02:17:26,549 --> 02:17:24,000
i know what goes on down there

3625
02:17:27,589 --> 02:17:26,559
and i assure you it's utter nonsense but

3626
02:17:28,469 --> 02:17:27,599
am i going to be able to convince

3627
02:17:30,870 --> 02:17:28,479
somebody else of that

3628
02:17:32,389 --> 02:17:30,880
no so podesta has had to deal with that

3629
02:17:33,830 --> 02:17:32,399
and many others are dealing with stuff

3630
02:17:35,910 --> 02:17:33,840
like this

3631
02:17:37,030 --> 02:17:35,920
one conspiracy theory out of a hundred

3632
02:17:39,429 --> 02:17:37,040
is probably true

3633
02:17:40,150 --> 02:17:39,439
i believe that the trick is figuring out

3634
02:17:43,349 --> 02:17:40,160
which one

3635
02:17:44,629 --> 02:17:43,359
is that so ultimately we got to get back

3636
02:17:46,870 --> 02:17:44,639
to tending our gardens

3637
02:17:47,830 --> 02:17:46,880
moving forward and trying to get things

3638
02:17:51,270 --> 02:17:47,840
done

3639
02:17:54,150 --> 02:17:51,280
and one of the things about the et issue

3640
02:17:56,070 --> 02:17:54,160
is that so much effort has been put into

3641
02:17:57,830 --> 02:17:56,080
it by so many people for so many years

3642
02:17:59,830 --> 02:17:57,840
that we have a substantial body of

3643
02:18:01,270 --> 02:17:59,840
evidence that by and large resists

3644
02:18:02,629 --> 02:18:01,280
conspiracy theories

3645
02:18:05,030 --> 02:18:02,639
if you want to try to generate a

3646
02:18:05,669 --> 02:18:05,040
conspiracy theory in this field you're

3647
02:18:08,629 --> 02:18:05,679
on

3648
02:18:10,790 --> 02:18:08,639
fairly uh shaky ground there's just so

3649
02:18:12,790 --> 02:18:10,800
much that can be brought forward

3650
02:18:14,549 --> 02:18:12,800
and say wait a minute i agree with that

3651
02:18:15,990 --> 02:18:14,559
i agree so you know we're not suffering

3652
02:18:20,150 --> 02:18:16,000
too much from that

3653
02:18:20,709 --> 02:18:20,160
so again uh joe biden i don't think is

3654
02:18:22,150 --> 02:18:20,719
uh is

3655
02:18:24,070 --> 02:18:22,160
is going to be on board if he isn't

3656
02:18:26,070 --> 02:18:24,080
already uh

3657
02:18:28,629 --> 02:18:26,080
the stable environment that the to the

3658
02:18:31,030 --> 02:18:28,639
stars academy needs is coming

3659
02:18:32,070 --> 02:18:31,040
and they're going to hold these obvious

3660
02:18:35,110 --> 02:18:32,080
question is

3661
02:18:38,230 --> 02:18:35,120
why early next year

3662
02:18:39,589 --> 02:18:38,240
why not two years from now all right and

3663
02:18:40,709 --> 02:18:39,599
i get to ask this question and i'll be

3664
02:18:43,750 --> 02:18:40,719
asked this question again

3665
02:18:46,469 --> 02:18:43,760
here's here's my answer uh

3666
02:18:47,669 --> 02:18:46,479
i believe that when clinton uh got in

3667
02:18:48,469 --> 02:18:47,679
she was going to hold herrings right

3668
02:18:51,910 --> 02:18:48,479
away

3669
02:18:53,910 --> 02:18:51,920
uh and i has in this case it's even more

3670
02:18:55,429 --> 02:18:53,920
important here are the reasons why it

3671
02:18:57,750 --> 02:18:55,439
needs to be early next year and if they

3672
02:18:59,509 --> 02:18:57,760
don't do it it's a colossal mistake

3673
02:19:01,030 --> 02:18:59,519
once you become president all kinds of

3674
02:19:03,030 --> 02:19:01,040
stuff happens and you're dealing with

3675
02:19:04,230 --> 02:19:03,040
all kinds of issues and crisis and this

3676
02:19:07,589 --> 02:19:04,240
and that whatever the hell

3677
02:19:09,270 --> 02:19:07,599
and it's extremely easy to kick it down

3678
02:19:10,309 --> 02:19:09,280
uh kick the can a little bit move it off

3679
02:19:11,349 --> 02:19:10,319
can't do it right let's do it in the

3680
02:19:12,709 --> 02:19:11,359
next year

3681
02:19:14,870 --> 02:19:12,719
that's part of the reason why the truth

3682
02:19:16,709 --> 02:19:14,880
embargo is in its 70th year

3683
02:19:19,190 --> 02:19:16,719
all right it keeps getting put off

3684
02:19:23,509 --> 02:19:19,200
because it's so hard all right got that

3685
02:19:26,870 --> 02:19:23,519
okay um and

3686
02:19:28,070 --> 02:19:26,880
so we don't want that secondly biden is

3687
02:19:30,469 --> 02:19:28,080
coming into

3688
02:19:32,070 --> 02:19:30,479
an fdr situation where everything has

3689
02:19:33,669 --> 02:19:32,080
gone completely to hell

3690
02:19:34,870 --> 02:19:33,679
and he's got problems that i don't even

3691
02:19:37,190 --> 02:19:34,880
want to think about they give me a

3692
02:19:38,950 --> 02:19:37,200
migraine just thinking about them

3693
02:19:40,870 --> 02:19:38,960
he needs all the political capital he

3694
02:19:41,910 --> 02:19:40,880
can get to maybe get something done and

3695
02:19:43,910 --> 02:19:41,920
i think americans

3696
02:19:45,270 --> 02:19:43,920
regardless of your political persuasion

3697
02:19:48,630 --> 02:19:45,280
want something done

3698
02:19:50,150 --> 02:19:48,640
desperately now having hearings like

3699
02:19:51,590 --> 02:19:50,160
that take place and ending up being the

3700
02:19:54,150 --> 02:19:51,600
disclosure president

3701
02:19:54,950 --> 02:19:54,160
will give him enormous political capital

3702
02:19:57,750 --> 02:19:54,960
worldwide

3703
02:19:58,630 --> 02:19:57,760
accolades coming in right elevation and

3704
02:20:00,710 --> 02:19:58,640
stature

3705
02:20:03,110 --> 02:20:00,720
and he will go down as the great truth

3706
02:20:04,309 --> 02:20:03,120
teller that is political capital he can

3707
02:20:06,230 --> 02:20:04,319
use to get things

3708
02:20:08,230 --> 02:20:06,240
done you don't put that off you want

3709
02:20:08,950 --> 02:20:08,240
that capital up front so that's another

3710
02:20:13,990 --> 02:20:08,960
reason

3711
02:20:16,070 --> 02:20:14,000
world's people are like tired

3712
02:20:17,349 --> 02:20:16,080
they are burned out they have been

3713
02:20:18,309 --> 02:20:17,359
through hell and the hell is going to

3714
02:20:21,590 --> 02:20:18,319
get even worse

3715
02:20:22,870 --> 02:20:21,600
over the next four months and yeah

3716
02:20:25,670 --> 02:20:22,880
how many people have been infected is

3717
02:20:27,510 --> 02:20:25,680
probably approaching a billion maybe

3718
02:20:29,349 --> 02:20:27,520
how many will end up dying by that time

3719
02:20:31,190 --> 02:20:29,359
maybe two million that's not a huge

3720
02:20:32,950 --> 02:20:31,200
number but the number affected by the

3721
02:20:34,870 --> 02:20:32,960
economic impact oh that's in the

3722
02:20:38,389 --> 02:20:34,880
hundreds of millions if not billions

3723
02:20:40,870 --> 02:20:38,399
so this has been a miserable time they

3724
02:20:41,670 --> 02:20:40,880
desperately need something potent

3725
02:20:45,670 --> 02:20:41,680
something

3726
02:20:49,030 --> 02:20:45,680
looking and special and exciting

3727
02:20:52,309 --> 02:20:49,040
it's basically the moon uh the moon shot

3728
02:20:52,950 --> 02:20:52,319
times 100 right and so you you provide

3729
02:20:55,349 --> 02:20:52,960
this

3730
02:20:56,230 --> 02:20:55,359
and so people can look and go wow that's

3731
02:20:58,710 --> 02:20:56,240
incredible

3732
02:20:59,830 --> 02:20:58,720
and start thinking about amazing future

3733
02:21:01,590 --> 02:20:59,840
instead of

3734
02:21:03,590 --> 02:21:01,600
i'm going to lose my business i'm going

3735
02:21:05,270 --> 02:21:03,600
to die of kovid i haven't been out of

3736
02:21:07,429 --> 02:21:05,280
the house in a year that kind of [\h__\h]

3737
02:21:08,469 --> 02:21:07,439
so what could be better it's a perfect

3738
02:21:10,550 --> 02:21:08,479
thing to have

3739
02:21:11,590 --> 02:21:10,560
and he's got it in his hands all he has

3740
02:21:13,670 --> 02:21:11,600
to do is go along

3741
02:21:15,190 --> 02:21:13,680
with what the ttsa is doing so that's

3742
02:21:17,349 --> 02:21:15,200
the reasons now

3743
02:21:18,389 --> 02:21:17,359
but it's never nevertheless people

3744
02:21:20,790 --> 02:21:18,399
change their mind

3745
02:21:23,190 --> 02:21:20,800
the reason i knew that clinton was going

3746
02:21:24,630 --> 02:21:23,200
to disclose early on i was sure of it

3747
02:21:26,950 --> 02:21:24,640
why did i launch this huge media

3748
02:21:28,550 --> 02:21:26,960
campaign why did i drive all that press

3749
02:21:30,309 --> 02:21:28,560
to get that stuff out there hundreds of

3750
02:21:32,389 --> 02:21:30,319
articles

3751
02:21:34,710 --> 02:21:32,399
because i wanted to give her no back

3752
02:21:36,230 --> 02:21:34,720
door i wanted to make it impossible for

3753
02:21:37,830 --> 02:21:36,240
her to change her mind

3754
02:21:39,910 --> 02:21:37,840
so that like she goes into office oh you

3755
02:21:41,429 --> 02:21:39,920
know so many it's going to be rough

3756
02:21:41,830 --> 02:21:41,439
let's just put that off to the second

3757
02:21:44,550 --> 02:21:41,840
term

3758
02:21:46,389 --> 02:21:44,560
no i wanted no back door over the next

3759
02:21:47,110 --> 02:21:46,399
three months i'm doing exactly the same

3760
02:21:49,349 --> 02:21:47,120
thing

3761
02:21:50,150 --> 02:21:49,359
i'm going to be doing scores and scores

3762
02:21:51,990 --> 02:21:50,160
of interviews

3763
02:21:53,270 --> 02:21:52,000
i'm going to launch my podcast very soon

3764
02:21:54,710 --> 02:21:53,280
i've been waiting for the political

3765
02:21:56,230 --> 02:21:54,720
situation to resolve

3766
02:21:57,910 --> 02:21:56,240
and during these podcasts you're going

3767
02:21:59,670 --> 02:21:57,920
to see me going through all of this and

3768
02:22:01,750 --> 02:21:59,680
the whole history of the ttsa

3769
02:22:02,870 --> 02:22:01,760
and what i expect and following any new

3770
02:22:06,389 --> 02:22:02,880
developments

3771
02:22:09,429 --> 02:22:06,399
i'm going to generate lots of media why

3772
02:22:12,230 --> 02:22:09,439
i want to give the ttsa no back

3773
02:22:13,510 --> 02:22:12,240
door in other words you that's your plan

3774
02:22:14,550 --> 02:22:13,520
you're not going to change your mind and

3775
02:22:15,510 --> 02:22:14,560
i'm not going to allow the president to

3776
02:22:17,510 --> 02:22:15,520
have a back door

3777
02:22:19,349 --> 02:22:17,520
i want to create a situation where once

3778
02:22:21,510 --> 02:22:19,359
he goes into office you've got people

3779
02:22:22,870 --> 02:22:21,520
out there immediately sending in emails

3780
02:22:25,349 --> 02:22:22,880
to the president what's this about

3781
02:22:26,309 --> 02:22:25,359
hearings what's this about the ttsa are

3782
02:22:28,150 --> 02:22:26,319
you doing something

3783
02:22:30,150 --> 02:22:28,160
what about you know mark what's going on

3784
02:22:31,670 --> 02:22:30,160
here are you going to respond to this

3785
02:22:33,590 --> 02:22:31,680
right and once he's in the press are

3786
02:22:34,389 --> 02:22:33,600
pretty now able to ask any questions

3787
02:22:36,230 --> 02:22:34,399
they want

3788
02:22:37,990 --> 02:22:36,240
and so i'm hoping the press will step

3789
02:22:38,790 --> 02:22:38,000
into this they haven't quite yet but i

3790
02:22:40,950 --> 02:22:38,800
think they might

3791
02:22:42,469 --> 02:22:40,960
they've stepped into the ttsa hundreds

3792
02:22:43,990 --> 02:22:42,479
and hundreds of articles

3793
02:22:46,630 --> 02:22:44,000
now i need to get the press to start

3794
02:22:48,710 --> 02:22:46,640
focusing on what about hearings

3795
02:22:50,070 --> 02:22:48,720
why is melon on the hill why is he

3796
02:22:51,590 --> 02:22:50,080
talking to committee chairs

3797
02:22:53,510 --> 02:22:51,600
because he wants he just wants to go up

3798
02:22:54,790 --> 02:22:53,520
there and hang out what can you have

3799
02:22:57,429 --> 02:22:54,800
lunch a free lunch in the

3800
02:22:59,670 --> 02:22:57,439
in the in the house restaurant he's only

3801
02:23:00,389 --> 02:22:59,680
there for one reason and that is to get

3802
02:23:02,389 --> 02:23:00,399
hearings

3803
02:23:04,550 --> 02:23:02,399
they've gathered the witnesses they've

3804
02:23:06,230 --> 02:23:04,560
got the press pretty much on their side

3805
02:23:07,590 --> 02:23:06,240
all they need is some committee chairs

3806
02:23:09,429 --> 02:23:07,600
to say we want the hearing so the

3807
02:23:10,630 --> 02:23:09,439
president doesn't make us fuss about it

3808
02:23:12,469 --> 02:23:10,640
boom we get them

3809
02:23:13,830 --> 02:23:12,479
i want no back door and that's why i'll

3810
02:23:16,870 --> 02:23:13,840
be doing the next three months

3811
02:23:21,910 --> 02:23:16,880
does it concern you

3812
02:23:25,030 --> 02:23:21,920
that uh ttsa wholly staffed by

3813
02:23:28,550 --> 02:23:25,040
spooks right counter intel

3814
02:23:31,750 --> 02:23:28,560
cia department of defense top to bottom

3815
02:23:34,790 --> 02:23:31,760
that their uh

3816
02:23:36,230 --> 02:23:34,800
controlling of the message comes from

3817
02:23:38,870 --> 02:23:36,240
one point of view

3818
02:23:40,790 --> 02:23:38,880
going in uh to washington doesn't

3819
02:23:43,910 --> 02:23:40,800
doesn't that concern you

3820
02:23:45,429 --> 02:23:43,920
that is a professional question sir you

3821
02:23:48,469 --> 02:23:45,439
are a consummate pro

3822
02:23:50,309 --> 02:23:48,479
i do what i do you know your way around

3823
02:23:52,230 --> 02:23:50,319
yes look there's two there's two sides

3824
02:23:54,070 --> 02:23:52,240
of this coin

3825
02:23:55,670 --> 02:23:54,080
one of the reasons they're doing able to

3826
02:23:58,950 --> 02:23:55,680
do what they do

3827
02:24:00,389 --> 02:23:58,960
is that their careers give them a level

3828
02:24:02,230 --> 02:24:00,399
and particularly collectively give them

3829
02:24:03,670 --> 02:24:02,240
a level of gravitas nobody in this field

3830
02:24:05,030 --> 02:24:03,680
can even approach

3831
02:24:07,030 --> 02:24:05,040
all right they're in and they're not

3832
02:24:08,389 --> 02:24:07,040
just ancient guys i mean a lot of them

3833
02:24:10,070 --> 02:24:08,399
are fresh out of the government

3834
02:24:12,230 --> 02:24:10,080
so they have the background they have

3835
02:24:13,990 --> 02:24:12,240
the contacts they have the gravitas the

3836
02:24:15,590 --> 02:24:14,000
new york times is going to listen to him

3837
02:24:17,590 --> 02:24:15,600
ralph blumenthal is going to write about

3838
02:24:17,990 --> 02:24:17,600
it whatever two-time pulitzer prize

3839
02:24:19,590 --> 02:24:18,000
winner

3840
02:24:21,429 --> 02:24:19,600
so they have the kravitas we didn't have

3841
02:24:23,030 --> 02:24:21,439
and that was necessary call it the

3842
02:24:25,110 --> 02:24:23,040
critical mass

3843
02:24:27,270 --> 02:24:25,120
but there is another side of the coin

3844
02:24:28,630 --> 02:24:27,280
right perfectly legitimate to bring it

3845
02:24:31,670 --> 02:24:28,640
up

3846
02:24:34,230 --> 02:24:31,680
there on the hill briefing these

3847
02:24:35,670 --> 02:24:34,240
chairs there on the hill giving them the

3848
02:24:37,349 --> 02:24:35,680
basis for go forward

3849
02:24:38,710 --> 02:24:37,359
which we already know is national

3850
02:24:41,830 --> 02:24:38,720
security and

3851
02:24:43,670 --> 02:24:41,840
the potential threat and the word threat

3852
02:24:45,349 --> 02:24:43,680
is used without potential frequently in

3853
02:24:47,910 --> 02:24:45,359
their their in their in their

3854
02:24:49,190 --> 02:24:47,920
activities and i've commented about that

3855
02:24:53,429 --> 02:24:49,200
okay

3856
02:24:56,550 --> 02:24:55,910
when they're talking to congress by

3857
02:24:59,190 --> 02:24:56,560
definite

3858
02:25:01,190 --> 02:24:59,200
i mean logically and appropriately they

3859
02:25:03,750 --> 02:25:01,200
are ultimately representing the interest

3860
02:25:06,870 --> 02:25:03,760
of the military intelligence complex

3861
02:25:09,030 --> 02:25:06,880
and that's what you would expect why not

3862
02:25:10,630 --> 02:25:09,040
they're giving that perspective

3863
02:25:11,349 --> 02:25:10,640
primarily the national defense

3864
02:25:12,870 --> 02:25:11,359
perspective

3865
02:25:14,469 --> 02:25:12,880
now i'm not saying they're not capable

3866
02:25:15,270 --> 02:25:14,479
of of addressing it from other

3867
02:25:17,750 --> 02:25:15,280
perspectives

3868
02:25:19,670 --> 02:25:17,760
i i think like louisando is a classic

3869
02:25:21,590 --> 02:25:19,680
example of a populist i mean this guy

3870
02:25:24,550 --> 02:25:21,600
could run for congress and win like that

3871
02:25:24,870 --> 02:25:24,560
okay i mean he can relate to anybody but

3872
02:25:26,070 --> 02:25:24,880
that

3873
02:25:27,429 --> 02:25:26,080
their background but they're not all

3874
02:25:29,349 --> 02:25:27,439
spooks by the way there's some of them

3875
02:25:32,070 --> 02:25:29,359
are that are government people

3876
02:25:33,830 --> 02:25:32,080
uh you know justice is a you know an

3877
02:25:34,309 --> 02:25:33,840
engineer manager from lockheed's gun

3878
02:25:35,590 --> 02:25:34,319
works

3879
02:25:37,510 --> 02:25:35,600
but some of them are spooks without

3880
02:25:39,670 --> 02:25:37,520
question so

3881
02:25:41,190 --> 02:25:39,680
that's where i feel i may have a role

3882
02:25:43,270 --> 02:25:41,200
i've been pretty much on the sidelines

3883
02:25:44,870 --> 02:25:43,280
trying to stay out of their way but do i

3884
02:25:46,550 --> 02:25:44,880
intend to try to get back on the hill if

3885
02:25:47,349 --> 02:25:46,560
they'll take a meeting eventually not

3886
02:25:49,990 --> 02:25:47,359
now

3887
02:25:51,750 --> 02:25:50,000
later yeah do i am i going to go to the

3888
02:25:56,309 --> 02:25:51,760
media with perspective on this

3889
02:25:58,230 --> 02:25:56,319
yes because hey i'm a citizen activist

3890
02:25:59,510 --> 02:25:58,240
i don't represent i never work for the

3891
02:26:01,429 --> 02:25:59,520
well i i worked for the

3892
02:26:03,670 --> 02:26:01,439
federal deposit insurance corporation

3893
02:26:06,230 --> 02:26:03,680
for six months and i got bored

3894
02:26:07,830 --> 02:26:06,240
uh i don't have security clearances i

3895
02:26:08,630 --> 02:26:07,840
represent the public's interest i always

3896
02:26:11,030 --> 02:26:08,640
have

3897
02:26:12,550 --> 02:26:11,040
and so i'm going to try to provide to

3898
02:26:13,750 --> 02:26:12,560
the congress if they care to pay

3899
02:26:17,030 --> 02:26:13,760
attention

3900
02:26:19,030 --> 02:26:17,040
the public's tier

3901
02:26:21,270 --> 02:26:19,040
not just the national security states

3902
02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:21,280
interest well and that's it

3903
02:26:25,429 --> 02:26:24,160
but that should be the concern stephen

3904
02:26:28,790 --> 02:26:25,439
that

3905
02:26:31,990 --> 02:26:28,800
certainly from where i am sitting

3906
02:26:35,349 --> 02:26:32,000
is that if the image

3907
02:26:38,230 --> 02:26:35,359
that is presented in washington is that

3908
02:26:40,389 --> 02:26:38,240
uh et's bad threat is there we've got to

3909
02:26:43,910 --> 02:26:40,399
protect the country we've got to protect

3910
02:26:46,950 --> 02:26:43,920
the world and if that is in turn biden's

3911
02:26:49,830 --> 02:26:46,960
message as he steps up to the

3912
02:26:51,910 --> 02:26:49,840
podium to make uh an announcement to

3913
02:26:54,950 --> 02:26:51,920
become the disclosure president

3914
02:26:55,670 --> 02:26:54,960
of one of a position of fear for the

3915
02:26:58,070 --> 02:26:55,680
world

3916
02:26:58,790 --> 02:26:58,080
and that's that's that's what i'm afraid

3917
02:27:02,309 --> 02:26:58,800
of

3918
02:27:04,309 --> 02:27:02,319
perfectly legitimate concern uh

3919
02:27:06,070 --> 02:27:04,319
do we want to freak out the entire

3920
02:27:06,870 --> 02:27:06,080
planet well they're already going to be

3921
02:27:09,270 --> 02:27:06,880
freaked out

3922
02:27:10,630 --> 02:27:09,280
no no no look look uh look the whole

3923
02:27:13,030 --> 02:27:10,640
national security threat issue i'm

3924
02:27:15,349 --> 02:27:13,040
following it very closely

3925
02:27:17,030 --> 02:27:15,359
i i know it's going to be the focus

3926
02:27:18,150 --> 02:27:17,040
initially that's okay we got to get the

3927
02:27:20,550 --> 02:27:18,160
ball rolling

3928
02:27:23,670 --> 02:27:20,560
the question is how far will they go and

3929
02:27:28,710 --> 02:27:26,710
judicial and accurate in in the

3930
02:27:30,790 --> 02:27:28,720
presentations along those lines

3931
02:27:32,150 --> 02:27:30,800
uh in that regard let me show you a

3932
02:27:33,270 --> 02:27:32,160
couple of things i think that will

3933
02:27:35,990 --> 02:27:33,280
impress you

3934
02:27:37,270 --> 02:27:36,000
um about these guys now the two guys the

3935
02:27:39,830 --> 02:27:37,280
most important guys are

3936
02:27:41,510 --> 02:27:39,840
elizondo and melon all right they're

3937
02:27:42,469 --> 02:27:41,520
really they're the ones that are setting

3938
02:27:44,870 --> 02:27:42,479
all this up melon

3939
02:27:45,670 --> 02:27:44,880
melon's doing the politics and the the

3940
02:27:47,510 --> 02:27:45,680
hill stuff

3941
02:27:50,790 --> 02:27:47,520
and louis elizondo is vetting the

3942
02:27:52,469 --> 02:27:50,800
witnesses almost all military

3943
02:27:54,070 --> 02:27:52,479
but i've i've listened to these guys and

3944
02:27:56,710 --> 02:27:54,080
i've i've watched what they've

3945
02:27:58,309 --> 02:27:56,720
i've read what they've said and so forth

3946
02:27:59,270 --> 02:27:58,319
they're pretty good guys melon and

3947
02:28:01,270 --> 02:27:59,280
lozano are out

3948
02:28:02,550 --> 02:28:01,280
elizando are outstanding human beings

3949
02:28:04,710 --> 02:28:02,560
they're good people

3950
02:28:05,910 --> 02:28:04,720
and they are under certain constraints

3951
02:28:07,830 --> 02:28:05,920
but recently

3952
02:28:09,190 --> 02:28:07,840
something happened which really got my

3953
02:28:12,710 --> 02:28:09,200
attention

3954
02:28:14,070 --> 02:28:12,720
two things first of all they've done two

3955
02:28:16,309 --> 02:28:14,080
seasons of unidentified

3956
02:28:17,590 --> 02:28:16,319
the first had six and the second one had

3957
02:28:19,349 --> 02:28:17,600
eight

3958
02:28:20,950 --> 02:28:19,359
and most of them dealt with witnesses

3959
02:28:22,150 --> 02:28:20,960
and national security matters and what

3960
02:28:25,190 --> 02:28:22,160
have you

3961
02:28:26,870 --> 02:28:25,200
the eighth one blew my mind because

3962
02:28:29,590 --> 02:28:26,880
here's what they did in the eighth

3963
02:28:31,030 --> 02:28:29,600
the last very last unidentified which

3964
02:28:31,670 --> 02:28:31,040
was i don't know a month and a half ago

3965
02:28:33,030 --> 02:28:31,680
or so

3966
02:28:35,270 --> 02:28:33,040
there won't be another one this year

3967
02:28:36,630 --> 02:28:35,280
there may never be another identified

3968
02:28:38,230 --> 02:28:36,640
so in other words this is their final

3969
02:28:41,030 --> 02:28:38,240
thing they're going out the door here

3970
02:28:44,710 --> 02:28:41,040
what was the show about it was about

3971
02:28:48,389 --> 02:28:44,720
contact they they did the last show

3972
02:28:50,710 --> 02:28:48,399
about encounters missing time

3973
02:28:52,790 --> 02:28:50,720
things like that not surprisingly it was

3974
02:28:55,110 --> 02:28:52,800
all military guys

3975
02:28:57,750 --> 02:28:55,120
they have encounters too and i'm going

3976
02:29:00,469 --> 02:28:57,760
wait a minute they're addressing contact

3977
02:29:01,510 --> 02:29:00,479
they're putting that out there that's

3978
02:29:02,550 --> 02:29:01,520
risky

3979
02:29:04,870 --> 02:29:02,560
particularly if you're talking to

3980
02:29:05,670 --> 02:29:04,880
congress what's going on here it was a

3981
02:29:09,670 --> 02:29:05,680
message

3982
02:29:11,429 --> 02:29:09,680
includes a whole lot of contact ease

3983
02:29:13,270 --> 02:29:11,439
we're not afraid of that issue that

3984
02:29:14,230 --> 02:29:13,280
issue's going to come up maybe not right

3985
02:29:16,710 --> 02:29:14,240
away

3986
02:29:17,590 --> 02:29:16,720
but we're willing to go there and we are

3987
02:29:19,830 --> 02:29:17,600
going there

3988
02:29:21,190 --> 02:29:19,840
that showed that they are not totally

3989
02:29:23,429 --> 02:29:21,200
narrowly focused

3990
02:29:25,349 --> 02:29:23,439
very happy to see that but something

3991
02:29:27,349 --> 02:29:25,359
else happened

3992
02:29:28,870 --> 02:29:27,359
the very end of the show you know how

3993
02:29:30,469 --> 02:29:28,880
you close out a show and the principal

3994
02:29:32,790 --> 02:29:30,479
characters will make some statements

3995
02:29:34,150 --> 02:29:32,800
like usually it's narration and so

3996
02:29:36,710 --> 02:29:34,160
elizondo and and

3997
02:29:38,630 --> 02:29:36,720
and melon made their final statements at

3998
02:29:39,190 --> 02:29:38,640
the very end of that unidentified

3999
02:29:42,150 --> 02:29:39,200
episode

4000
02:29:43,349 --> 02:29:42,160
ending the the two seasons and this is

4001
02:29:44,790 --> 02:29:43,359
what they said

4002
02:29:46,790 --> 02:29:44,800
uh if you don't mind i'm going to read

4003
02:29:49,990 --> 02:29:46,800
this right go ahead

4004
02:29:51,510 --> 02:29:50,000
this is what mel this is what elizondo

4005
02:29:52,950 --> 02:29:51,520
said

4006
02:29:55,590 --> 02:29:52,960
it was tran some people transcribed it

4007
02:29:57,670 --> 02:29:55,600
and provided it here's what lou said

4008
02:29:59,190 --> 02:29:57,680
what does it mean for us if we are

4009
02:30:01,190 --> 02:29:59,200
presented one day

4010
02:30:02,230 --> 02:30:01,200
with the fact that there are others

4011
02:30:04,950 --> 02:30:02,240
capital o

4012
02:30:06,150 --> 02:30:04,960
out there does it mean we are not as

4013
02:30:07,830 --> 02:30:06,160
special anymore

4014
02:30:09,750 --> 02:30:07,840
or does it mean that we have brothers

4015
02:30:10,150 --> 02:30:09,760
and sisters that now we should start a

4016
02:30:12,309 --> 02:30:10,160
new

4017
02:30:14,230 --> 02:30:12,319
journey with i think there is magic in

4018
02:30:16,070 --> 02:30:14,240
that it's wonderful to think that

4019
02:30:17,990 --> 02:30:16,080
in the greater cosmos billions and

4020
02:30:20,070 --> 02:30:18,000
billions of light years with billions

4021
02:30:22,550 --> 02:30:20,080
trillions of stars and planets that we

4022
02:30:25,190 --> 02:30:22,560
are all part of this interesting cosmic

4023
02:30:27,190 --> 02:30:25,200
neighborhood wouldn't it be amazing

4024
02:30:29,429 --> 02:30:27,200
maybe we would be more human

4025
02:30:32,230 --> 02:30:29,439
maybe we will learn to be more than

4026
02:30:34,309 --> 02:30:32,240
human if we have a chance to learn from

4027
02:30:36,550 --> 02:30:34,319
something else and therefore our

4028
02:30:40,230 --> 02:30:36,560
definition of being a human being

4029
02:30:43,830 --> 02:30:40,240
is expanded that's lou now let's

4030
02:30:45,670 --> 02:30:43,840
here is what melon says the phenomena is

4031
02:30:47,990 --> 02:30:45,680
real

4032
02:30:49,190 --> 02:30:48,000
these are not russians us or chinese

4033
02:30:51,030 --> 02:30:49,200
vehicles

4034
02:30:52,870 --> 02:30:51,040
if there is another intelligence from

4035
02:30:53,590 --> 02:30:52,880
another system which is vastly more

4036
02:30:55,750 --> 02:30:53,600
advanced and

4037
02:30:57,590 --> 02:30:55,760
sophisticated than we are and we are

4038
02:30:59,510 --> 02:30:57,600
able to establish contact and

4039
02:31:00,630 --> 02:30:59,520
communication it would be the equivalent

4040
02:31:02,469 --> 02:31:00,640
of possibly gaining

4041
02:31:05,110 --> 02:31:02,479
hundreds of thousands or millions of

4042
02:31:08,710 --> 02:31:05,120
years of knowledge in the days

4043
02:31:09,750 --> 02:31:08,720
or weeks now does this sound like two

4044
02:31:13,030 --> 02:31:09,760
men

4045
02:31:14,070 --> 02:31:13,040
who are going to heavily push ets or a

4046
02:31:15,510 --> 02:31:14,080
national major

4047
02:31:17,349 --> 02:31:15,520
threat and we've got to spend trillions

4048
02:31:20,150 --> 02:31:17,359
defending ourselves

4049
02:31:20,630 --> 02:31:20,160
is this is this people that are that are

4050
02:31:22,550 --> 02:31:20,640
that are

4051
02:31:24,309 --> 02:31:22,560
haven't made up their mind yet and you

4052
02:31:24,870 --> 02:31:24,319
listen to what they read what they say

4053
02:31:26,870 --> 02:31:24,880
look

4054
02:31:27,990 --> 02:31:26,880
they know it's extraterrestrial it's

4055
02:31:30,070 --> 02:31:28,000
clearly stated there but

4056
02:31:32,389 --> 02:31:30,080
they can't be emphatic about it that

4057
02:31:35,910 --> 02:31:32,399
violates the the terms of

4058
02:31:37,590 --> 02:31:35,920
of engagement and so this was them

4059
02:31:38,710 --> 02:31:37,600
letting their hair down and saying folks

4060
02:31:41,349 --> 02:31:38,720
it's okay

4061
02:31:42,150 --> 02:31:41,359
don't get too concerned as we move

4062
02:31:44,550 --> 02:31:42,160
forward

4063
02:31:46,150 --> 02:31:44,560
with the witnesses to try to engage the

4064
02:31:48,230 --> 02:31:46,160
national security aspects

4065
02:31:49,510 --> 02:31:48,240
to draw the congress into this the media

4066
02:31:50,230 --> 02:31:49,520
into this and ultimately make it

4067
02:31:52,710 --> 02:31:50,240
possible

4068
02:31:53,429 --> 02:31:52,720
for the president to confirm it well it

4069
02:31:56,630 --> 02:31:53,439
sounds like

4070
02:31:59,110 --> 02:31:56,640
uh

4071
02:32:00,950 --> 02:31:59,120
listen to fade to black and and they've

4072
02:32:03,670 --> 02:32:00,960
they've learned something

4073
02:32:05,030 --> 02:32:03,680
but uh and i'm not saying that in jest

4074
02:32:08,710 --> 02:32:05,040
by the way i'm saying that

4075
02:32:12,389 --> 02:32:08,720
uh uh quite straightforward but

4076
02:32:15,510 --> 02:32:12,399
i don't see the

4077
02:32:16,710 --> 02:32:15,520
the flowers and confetti being thrown

4078
02:32:20,550 --> 02:32:16,720
around at

4079
02:32:21,750 --> 02:32:20,560
at hearings on capitol hill no no no

4080
02:32:23,670 --> 02:32:21,760
you can't go on the hill and talk to

4081
02:32:24,469 --> 02:32:23,680
committee chairs and say look hey

4082
02:32:27,590 --> 02:32:24,479
there's an e.t

4083
02:32:28,870 --> 02:32:27,600
presence our space brothers right yeah

4084
02:32:30,950 --> 02:32:28,880
and like hey man let's hold some

4085
02:32:31,270 --> 02:32:30,960
hearings on how we're going to welcome

4086
02:32:33,590 --> 02:32:31,280
them

4087
02:32:34,710 --> 02:32:33,600
when they finally show right right right

4088
02:32:36,150 --> 02:32:34,720
that's right let's prepare for

4089
02:32:37,750 --> 02:32:36,160
now they can't do that right it's not

4090
02:32:38,070 --> 02:32:37,760
going to happen they've got to go up

4091
02:32:42,230 --> 02:32:38,080
there

4092
02:32:44,389 --> 02:32:42,240
and say national security clearly look

4093
02:32:47,270 --> 02:32:44,399
the number one most important area of

4094
02:32:49,910 --> 02:32:47,280
evidence as far as i'm concerned

4095
02:32:51,030 --> 02:32:49,920
is nuclear weapons tampering the most

4096
02:32:52,790 --> 02:32:51,040
important book ever written in this

4097
02:32:54,870 --> 02:32:52,800
field as far as i'm concerned is robert

4098
02:32:56,950 --> 02:32:54,880
hastings ufos and nukes

4099
02:32:58,550 --> 02:32:56,960
all right great books that testimony has

4100
02:32:59,510 --> 02:32:58,560
been out there for a long time yes it

4101
02:33:00,950 --> 02:32:59,520
has well they brought they brought

4102
02:33:02,710 --> 02:33:00,960
witnesses into the press conference at

4103
02:33:04,389 --> 02:33:02,720
the national press club i was there

4104
02:33:06,230 --> 02:33:04,399
media came in listened to him and then

4105
02:33:09,670 --> 02:33:06,240
went off no hearings

4106
02:33:10,790 --> 02:33:09,680
right nothing is more a clear connection

4107
02:33:12,870 --> 02:33:10,800
between the e.t

4108
02:33:14,950 --> 02:33:12,880
presence and national security interests

4109
02:33:16,950 --> 02:33:14,960
than the fact that they turn our weapons

4110
02:33:18,070 --> 02:33:16,960
off and we've got scores of military

4111
02:33:20,309 --> 02:33:18,080
witnesses to that

4112
02:33:22,790 --> 02:33:20,319
so it's totally legitimate why are they

4113
02:33:24,870 --> 02:33:22,800
turning them off what's going on

4114
02:33:26,790 --> 02:33:24,880
so what we haven't had hearings but

4115
02:33:27,670 --> 02:33:26,800
before now we can have them now they

4116
02:33:29,510 --> 02:33:27,680
have included the

4117
02:33:31,349 --> 02:33:29,520
nuclear weapons tampering stuff in two

4118
02:33:32,070 --> 02:33:31,359
of their shows it's clearly on the

4119
02:33:33,910 --> 02:33:32,080
agenda

4120
02:33:35,590 --> 02:33:33,920
and so look for that to be there but

4121
02:33:37,510 --> 02:33:35,600
i'll tell you something i've talked to a

4122
02:33:38,950 --> 02:33:37,520
number of the witnesses to the nuclear

4123
02:33:40,950 --> 02:33:38,960
weapons tampering

4124
02:33:42,790 --> 02:33:40,960
and i believe and bob salas i think

4125
02:33:45,270 --> 02:33:42,800
agrees that

4126
02:33:47,030 --> 02:33:45,280
most of them feel that this was nothing

4127
02:33:49,190 --> 02:33:47,040
more than a message

4128
02:33:50,630 --> 02:33:49,200
like why the hell have you got these you

4129
02:33:52,070 --> 02:33:50,640
can't you can't hurt us with them all

4130
02:33:53,110 --> 02:33:52,080
you can do is blow yourself to kingdom

4131
02:33:55,190 --> 02:33:53,120
come

4132
02:33:56,389 --> 02:33:55,200
right not oh we've turned your weapons

4133
02:33:57,830 --> 02:33:56,399
off just to remind you that we're

4134
02:33:59,830 --> 02:33:57,840
incredibly powerful and soon

4135
02:34:01,990 --> 02:33:59,840
we're going to come and kill all of you

4136
02:34:03,110 --> 02:34:02,000
no very few of them think that and these

4137
02:34:04,070 --> 02:34:03,120
are the guys that were there and

4138
02:34:07,750 --> 02:34:04,080
experienced it

4139
02:34:10,550 --> 02:34:07,760
now all of this is still an assessment

4140
02:34:11,990 --> 02:34:10,560
the ets will do what they do we do not

4141
02:34:14,790 --> 02:34:12,000
know their ultimate agenda

4142
02:34:16,710 --> 02:34:14,800
until they do it or they tell us but we

4143
02:34:18,870 --> 02:34:16,720
have no choice but to try to assess

4144
02:34:20,630 --> 02:34:18,880
and project what we think will happen

4145
02:34:21,990 --> 02:34:20,640
what's appropriate and get through this

4146
02:34:24,150 --> 02:34:22,000
the best we can

4147
02:34:25,670 --> 02:34:24,160
without getting into bizarre theories

4148
02:34:27,349 --> 02:34:25,680
and conspiracy stuff

4149
02:34:29,349 --> 02:34:27,359
and other nonsense which is being

4150
02:34:30,550 --> 02:34:29,359
projected by people that have i think no

4151
02:34:32,550 --> 02:34:30,560
real serious interest

4152
02:34:34,550 --> 02:34:32,560
in getting to the truth and that's the

4153
02:34:35,270 --> 02:34:34,560
best we can do i am i've been in a long

4154
02:34:36,870 --> 02:34:35,280
time i'm

4155
02:34:39,349 --> 02:34:36,880
optimistic that we're going to be very

4156
02:34:41,670 --> 02:34:39,359
pleased with how this works out

4157
02:34:42,870 --> 02:34:41,680
with disclosure with the hearings and i

4158
02:34:44,710 --> 02:34:42,880
believe that once

4159
02:34:46,230 --> 02:34:44,720
we we have the military witnesses

4160
02:34:49,270 --> 02:34:46,240
testify for

4161
02:34:50,309 --> 02:34:49,280
weeks perhaps and i think disclosure

4162
02:34:52,070 --> 02:34:50,319
will take place

4163
02:34:53,349 --> 02:34:52,080
and then after disclosure the hearings

4164
02:34:55,110 --> 02:34:53,359
will continue

4165
02:34:56,469 --> 02:34:55,120
and then i think they will start

4166
02:34:58,150 --> 02:34:56,479
bringing in civilians

4167
02:34:59,990 --> 02:34:58,160
they may bring in some of the citizen

4168
02:35:01,750 --> 02:35:00,000
science people they may bring in

4169
02:35:03,990 --> 02:35:01,760
civilian contactees

4170
02:35:06,150 --> 02:35:04,000
on military contactees and the hearings

4171
02:35:08,150 --> 02:35:06,160
will expand into the more exotic

4172
02:35:10,710 --> 02:35:08,160
and difficult areas public relations

4173
02:35:11,429 --> 02:35:10,720
wise but after disclosure people will be

4174
02:35:14,469 --> 02:35:11,439
pretty

4175
02:35:16,230 --> 02:35:14,479
generous in that uh in other words

4176
02:35:18,550 --> 02:35:16,240
you clear the national security matter

4177
02:35:20,710 --> 02:35:18,560
up first you come to the conclusion that

4178
02:35:22,230 --> 02:35:20,720
they're here you confirm that

4179
02:35:24,710 --> 02:35:22,240
you come to the conclusion that based on

4180
02:35:27,030 --> 02:35:24,720
a testimony we should be

4181
02:35:27,750 --> 02:35:27,040
vigilant about the possibilities of a

4182
02:35:29,990 --> 02:35:27,760
threat

4183
02:35:30,790 --> 02:35:30,000
but overall this our statement is the

4184
02:35:32,870 --> 02:35:30,800
same thing this

4185
02:35:35,030 --> 02:35:32,880
air force was saying for 50 years when

4186
02:35:37,910 --> 02:35:35,040
you sent him a damn letter

4187
02:35:39,190 --> 02:35:37,920
we don't investigate the phenomena is

4188
02:35:42,150 --> 02:35:39,200
what the letter said

4189
02:35:44,070 --> 02:35:42,160
but we don't see it as a threat that's

4190
02:35:46,309 --> 02:35:44,080
what the air force was saying for years

4191
02:35:47,590 --> 02:35:46,319
and they were engaging the e.t issue for

4192
02:35:50,870 --> 02:35:47,600
decades and had

4193
02:35:52,070 --> 02:35:50,880
crashed vehicles and dead bodies and so

4194
02:35:53,750 --> 02:35:52,080
they're basically going to confirm what

4195
02:35:55,990 --> 02:35:53,760
they said before only this time it's

4196
02:35:59,910 --> 02:35:56,000
part of a public disclosure process

4197
02:36:02,150 --> 02:35:59,920
yes vigilance trust would verify

4198
02:36:03,590 --> 02:36:02,160
but they do not pose an immediate threat

4199
02:36:05,510 --> 02:36:03,600
now let's move on and learn

4200
02:36:06,710 --> 02:36:05,520
tell you more about what we know and

4201
02:36:08,230 --> 02:36:06,720
let's come together as a global

4202
02:36:09,270 --> 02:36:08,240
civilization to deal with the most

4203
02:36:11,510 --> 02:36:09,280
profound

4204
02:36:12,469 --> 02:36:11,520
uh transition that any planet could

4205
02:36:15,190 --> 02:36:12,479
probably go through

4206
02:36:16,070 --> 02:36:15,200
yeah that's right and move on okay so

4207
02:36:20,550 --> 02:36:16,080
you mentioned

4208
02:36:23,190 --> 02:36:20,560
the rubicon right there's two rubicons

4209
02:36:24,790 --> 02:36:23,200
that would be presented and have to be

4210
02:36:27,670 --> 02:36:24,800
crossed

4211
02:36:29,349 --> 02:36:27,680
if these hearings go down as they should

4212
02:36:32,309 --> 02:36:29,359
and the cat is out of the back

4213
02:36:32,790 --> 02:36:32,319
first one uh during these hearings of

4214
02:36:34,950 --> 02:36:32,800
course

4215
02:36:36,070 --> 02:36:34,960
tucker and the media is going to be

4216
02:36:39,830 --> 02:36:36,080
covering this

4217
02:36:40,309 --> 02:36:39,840
does tucker cross the rubicon of going

4218
02:36:43,349 --> 02:36:40,319
from

4219
02:36:46,790 --> 02:36:43,359
pilots and dave fraver to

4220
02:36:50,150 --> 02:36:46,800
talking about contact and contactees on

4221
02:36:52,309 --> 02:36:50,160
on fox news well let's say

4222
02:36:55,349 --> 02:36:52,319
that's a huge that's a big step right

4223
02:36:57,990 --> 02:36:55,359
that's that's different from navy videos

4224
02:37:00,070 --> 02:36:58,000
history is messy it's never it's not

4225
02:37:01,830 --> 02:37:00,080
it's not clear it's not it's not simple

4226
02:37:03,349 --> 02:37:01,840
look once these hearings get underway

4227
02:37:05,830 --> 02:37:03,359
your people are gonna

4228
02:37:07,349 --> 02:37:05,840
explode all every researcher in the

4229
02:37:09,190 --> 02:37:07,359
fields hair is going to be on fire

4230
02:37:11,030 --> 02:37:09,200
but don't answer the question answer the

4231
02:37:12,550 --> 02:37:11,040
question directly do you see tucker and

4232
02:37:16,070 --> 02:37:12,560
his bow tie

4233
02:37:17,830 --> 02:37:16,080
having a contact e on fox news

4234
02:37:19,110 --> 02:37:17,840
you can't rule it out okay i think the

4235
02:37:20,389 --> 02:37:19,120
media while these hearings are going to

4236
02:37:21,830 --> 02:37:20,399
go on they'd be looking for everybody

4237
02:37:23,990 --> 02:37:21,840
and anybody to get on the air

4238
02:37:25,670 --> 02:37:24,000
i agree and they may want to get into

4239
02:37:28,950 --> 02:37:25,680
the e.t issue they may want to get into

4240
02:37:30,309 --> 02:37:28,960
a abduction issue uh and the government

4241
02:37:32,150 --> 02:37:30,319
can't stop that

4242
02:37:33,590 --> 02:37:32,160
and there'll be plenty of other people

4243
02:37:35,270 --> 02:37:33,600
are going to go to the media and say hey

4244
02:37:35,990 --> 02:37:35,280
what about this what about that i get

4245
02:37:42,469 --> 02:37:36,000
that

4246
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:42,479
congress will maintain the focus

4247
02:37:45,750 --> 02:37:44,560
the witnesses will maintain the focus

4248
02:37:47,750 --> 02:37:45,760
and most people

4249
02:37:48,950 --> 02:37:47,760
are going to be just just utterly

4250
02:37:50,870 --> 02:37:48,960
riveted on these

4251
02:37:52,389 --> 02:37:50,880
hearings and all this other stuff will

4252
02:37:53,349 --> 02:37:52,399
not be that

4253
02:37:54,790 --> 02:37:53,359
they're not going to devote a lot of

4254
02:37:56,070 --> 02:37:54,800
attention to the other stuff they're

4255
02:37:56,710 --> 02:37:56,080
going to they just want to see the damn

4256
02:37:59,030 --> 02:37:56,720
hearings but

4257
02:38:00,070 --> 02:37:59,040
in the in the evening the chat rooms are

4258
02:38:01,590 --> 02:38:00,080
going to explode

4259
02:38:03,750 --> 02:38:01,600
you're going to have comments flying

4260
02:38:06,790 --> 02:38:03,760
everywhere it's going to be heated

4261
02:38:09,510 --> 02:38:06,800
that's unavoidable what's important

4262
02:38:11,670 --> 02:38:09,520
is what takes place in those hearing

4263
02:38:12,950 --> 02:38:11,680
meetings now let me tell you something

4264
02:38:15,670 --> 02:38:12,960
i don't care how much money it's going

4265
02:38:16,950 --> 02:38:15,680
to cost me i'm going to pay somebody to

4266
02:38:18,469 --> 02:38:16,960
stand in line because i'm going to get

4267
02:38:21,670 --> 02:38:18,479
into some of those hearings

4268
02:38:22,309 --> 02:38:21,680
right it's not going to be easy i'm with

4269
02:38:24,790 --> 02:38:22,319
you on that

4270
02:38:25,510 --> 02:38:24,800
i i just i i'm just picturing wolf

4271
02:38:28,389 --> 02:38:25,520
blitzer

4272
02:38:29,830 --> 02:38:28,399
interviewing whitley strieber i'm just

4273
02:38:32,950 --> 02:38:29,840
i'm putting that in my mind's eye

4274
02:38:34,790 --> 02:38:32,960
okay but the second rubicon is the other

4275
02:38:35,750 --> 02:38:34,800
big one i mean because that's a major

4276
02:38:37,429 --> 02:38:35,760
one right there

4277
02:38:39,910 --> 02:38:37,439
crossing that line but the second

4278
02:38:43,830 --> 02:38:39,920
rubicon would be

4279
02:38:48,230 --> 02:38:43,840
the no no no pushing

4280
02:38:51,910 --> 02:38:48,240
the department of defense to now release

4281
02:38:53,429 --> 02:38:51,920
what they have because that's that

4282
02:38:55,590 --> 02:38:53,439
that's got to be the next that's got to

4283
02:38:59,030 --> 02:38:55,600
be the next rubicon of course

4284
02:39:01,110 --> 02:38:59,040
uh the rubicon i referred to was the

4285
02:39:02,230 --> 02:39:01,120
the point of no return towards wrapping

4286
02:39:03,990 --> 02:39:02,240
up the

4287
02:39:06,550 --> 02:39:04,000
disclosure movement and ending the truth

4288
02:39:07,349 --> 02:39:06,560
embarco at that point it was inevitable

4289
02:39:09,190 --> 02:39:07,359
and sooner

4290
02:39:10,389 --> 02:39:09,200
much sooner than we thought and it will

4291
02:39:12,550 --> 02:39:10,399
happen

4292
02:39:14,469 --> 02:39:12,560
you get the hearings you get disclosure

4293
02:39:16,070 --> 02:39:14,479
now the moment the president makes the

4294
02:39:17,110 --> 02:39:16,080
announcement other world leaders will

4295
02:39:19,590 --> 02:39:17,120
follow quickly

4296
02:39:21,190 --> 02:39:19,600
it's global it's accepted it's confirmed

4297
02:39:23,429 --> 02:39:21,200
right

4298
02:39:24,790 --> 02:39:23,439
uh there won't be any recounts there

4299
02:39:27,510 --> 02:39:24,800
won't be any lawsuits no

4300
02:39:29,030 --> 02:39:27,520
i'm passing a lawsuit uh throwing all of

4301
02:39:29,910 --> 02:39:29,040
that out because there can't be et's

4302
02:39:31,750 --> 02:39:29,920
here no no

4303
02:39:33,590 --> 02:39:31,760
now we're in the post-disclosure world

4304
02:39:36,710 --> 02:39:33,600
jimmy and that is a whole

4305
02:39:39,270 --> 02:39:36,720
nother massive vat of fish

4306
02:39:40,550 --> 02:39:39,280
in other words my god i have no idea

4307
02:39:43,030 --> 02:39:40,560
what's going to happen

4308
02:39:43,830 --> 02:39:43,040
but everything is on the table at that

4309
02:39:45,510 --> 02:39:43,840
point

4310
02:39:47,750 --> 02:39:45,520
right and now you're going to have

4311
02:39:49,830 --> 02:39:47,760
people going to their congressman and

4312
02:39:51,349 --> 02:39:49,840
senators and so forth saying okay we

4313
02:39:53,190 --> 02:39:51,359
want we want hearings on this we want

4314
02:39:55,270 --> 02:39:53,200
hearings on that what about this

4315
02:39:56,469 --> 02:39:55,280
and of course the president is going to

4316
02:39:58,309 --> 02:39:56,479
be an enormous

4317
02:40:00,309 --> 02:39:58,319
uh not pressure but it's going to almost

4318
02:40:01,349 --> 02:40:00,319
focus on what's the president going to

4319
02:40:07,110 --> 02:40:01,359
do

4320
02:40:08,630 --> 02:40:07,120
this tug of war that i've talked about

4321
02:40:10,870 --> 02:40:08,640
before

4322
02:40:12,469 --> 02:40:10,880
once disclosure is done and we're filing

4323
02:40:13,990 --> 02:40:12,479
the post-disclosure world

4324
02:40:16,070 --> 02:40:14,000
then it comes down to how much

4325
02:40:19,990 --> 02:40:16,080
information is provided and when

4326
02:40:22,150 --> 02:40:20,000
well can't well can't i can't both uh

4327
02:40:24,070 --> 02:40:22,160
uh the house and the senate they have

4328
02:40:25,830 --> 02:40:24,080
the power this isn't freedom of

4329
02:40:27,670 --> 02:40:25,840
information act this isn't john

4330
02:40:30,309 --> 02:40:27,680
greenwald jr requesting

4331
02:40:31,030 --> 02:40:30,319
documents that's right right the senate

4332
02:40:34,230 --> 02:40:31,040
can now

4333
02:40:37,269 --> 02:40:34,240
and and the house can request

4334
02:40:38,790 --> 02:40:37,279
documents redacted or what have you

4335
02:40:40,389 --> 02:40:38,800
but yeah it's the president though that

4336
02:40:43,190 --> 02:40:40,399
is the key look the president

4337
02:40:44,550 --> 02:40:43,200
biden will have a a very important uh

4338
02:40:47,110 --> 02:40:44,560
decisions to make

4339
02:40:48,070 --> 02:40:47,120
biden if he chose to once disclosure has

4340
02:40:51,190 --> 02:40:48,080
taken place

4341
02:40:52,950 --> 02:40:51,200
is he can go to the to the agencies all

4342
02:40:55,990 --> 02:40:52,960
of them and say we want

4343
02:40:57,670 --> 02:40:56,000
everything brought forward inventoried

4344
02:40:58,710 --> 02:40:57,680
and provided to me for consideration i'm

4345
02:41:00,950 --> 02:40:58,720
going to set up a

4346
02:41:02,230 --> 02:41:00,960
a blue ribbon commission to review

4347
02:41:05,429 --> 02:41:02,240
everything in our

4348
02:41:06,389 --> 02:41:05,439
our under underground world uh and uh

4349
02:41:08,389 --> 02:41:06,399
usaps

4350
02:41:09,830 --> 02:41:08,399
and decide what the public should know

4351
02:41:12,550 --> 02:41:09,840
or not know he could do that

4352
02:41:14,070 --> 02:41:12,560
he could force missouri if he wanted to

4353
02:41:15,830 --> 02:41:14,080
the congress has some

4354
02:41:17,429 --> 02:41:15,840
some power there but not nearly the

4355
02:41:19,269 --> 02:41:17,439
power of the president and there'll be

4356
02:41:20,950 --> 02:41:19,279
people demanding the president do this

4357
02:41:22,389 --> 02:41:20,960
they want you to drag everything out on

4358
02:41:23,830 --> 02:41:22,399
the white house law and we can go

4359
02:41:26,070 --> 02:41:23,840
through it like a rummage sale

4360
02:41:27,590 --> 02:41:26,080
it's going to be intense but i i think

4361
02:41:30,870 --> 02:41:27,600
think of it as a tug of war

4362
02:41:31,670 --> 02:41:30,880
on one side is the people all seven

4363
02:41:33,110 --> 02:41:31,680
billion of us

4364
02:41:35,030 --> 02:41:33,120
and the media which are immediately

4365
02:41:35,590 --> 02:41:35,040
going to be on our side i'll be getting

4366
02:41:38,790 --> 02:41:35,600
calls

4367
02:41:39,830 --> 02:41:38,800
we'd like you on hey you haven't called

4368
02:41:41,670 --> 02:41:39,840
me in eight years

4369
02:41:43,269 --> 02:41:41,680
ten years oh no no it's okay man we want

4370
02:41:45,030 --> 02:41:43,279
you on come on and chat so we'll all get

4371
02:41:45,750 --> 02:41:45,040
immediate and the media is going to be

4372
02:41:47,349 --> 02:41:45,760
on our side

4373
02:41:49,429 --> 02:41:47,359
what media is going to sit out on this

4374
02:41:50,070 --> 02:41:49,439
like you know we'd like to kind of cover

4375
02:41:51,510 --> 02:41:50,080
this but

4376
02:41:54,070 --> 02:41:51,520
it's it's not not a good idea we're

4377
02:41:56,389 --> 02:41:54,080
going to no way so it's the media and us

4378
02:41:58,230 --> 02:41:56,399
and the government on the other side and

4379
02:42:01,030 --> 02:41:58,240
we're in a tug of war

4380
02:42:02,469 --> 02:42:01,040
right we want everything now and the

4381
02:42:03,110 --> 02:42:02,479
government says look we can give you

4382
02:42:05,910 --> 02:42:03,120
this

4383
02:42:07,269 --> 02:42:05,920
and more later we got to be responsible

4384
02:42:08,550 --> 02:42:07,279
we can't get ahead of ourselves there's

4385
02:42:10,469 --> 02:42:08,560
now some security issues

4386
02:42:12,150 --> 02:42:10,479
and it'll go back and forth we'll have

4387
02:42:14,550 --> 02:42:12,160
some victories to have some wins

4388
02:42:15,510 --> 02:42:14,560
but in overtime and i don't think it'll

4389
02:42:18,389 --> 02:42:15,520
take long

4390
02:42:20,790 --> 02:42:18,399
a huge amount is going to come out

4391
02:42:23,429 --> 02:42:20,800
including the contact stuff

4392
02:42:24,830 --> 02:42:23,439
and and ultimately only the most

4393
02:42:27,990 --> 02:42:24,840
sensitive

4394
02:42:30,790 --> 02:42:28,000
extremely potentially dangerous

4395
02:42:31,349 --> 02:42:30,800
information will be withheld uh

4396
02:42:33,190 --> 02:42:31,359
hopefully

4397
02:42:36,950 --> 02:42:33,200
what would that what would you classify

4398
02:42:39,830 --> 02:42:36,960
that as a direct communication ongoing

4399
02:42:40,630 --> 02:42:39,840
with uh intelligent civilizations

4400
02:42:43,750 --> 02:42:40,640
possession

4401
02:42:47,750 --> 02:42:43,760
of e.t technology across saw maybe

4402
02:42:51,190 --> 02:42:47,760
a a craft was donated right

4403
02:42:53,110 --> 02:42:51,200
by uh an alien civilization is that the

4404
02:42:56,870 --> 02:42:53,120
stuff that would ultimately

4405
02:42:57,670 --> 02:42:56,880
remain protected and secret a reasonable

4406
02:42:58,790 --> 02:42:57,680
question

4407
02:43:00,630 --> 02:42:58,800
you're gonna have two points of view on

4408
02:43:02,230 --> 02:43:00,640
this if you're in the government one

4409
02:43:03,670 --> 02:43:02,240
point of view is look

4410
02:43:05,349 --> 02:43:03,680
the stuff that's the biggest public

4411
02:43:06,070 --> 02:43:05,359
relation problems for us we got to keep

4412
02:43:07,590 --> 02:43:06,080
that secret

4413
02:43:09,429 --> 02:43:07,600
right right if it's to make us look

4414
02:43:11,750 --> 02:43:09,439
stupid it's got to remain secret

4415
02:43:13,269 --> 02:43:11,760
like the mylabs program man it's going

4416
02:43:15,110 --> 02:43:13,279
to be tough explaining to the people

4417
02:43:16,950 --> 02:43:15,120
yeah we kind of did some things there in

4418
02:43:19,269 --> 02:43:16,960
order to get information and

4419
02:43:20,950 --> 02:43:19,279
fake some maybe abductions using some

4420
02:43:22,710 --> 02:43:20,960
chemicals what this is not

4421
02:43:25,190 --> 02:43:22,720
is it national security now that's a

4422
02:43:25,990 --> 02:43:25,200
non-trivial issue that's a non-trivial

4423
02:43:27,670 --> 02:43:26,000
issue if there is

4424
02:43:29,510 --> 02:43:27,680
it's not trivial but it's not core

4425
02:43:30,230 --> 02:43:29,520
national security it's mostly public

4426
02:43:32,469 --> 02:43:30,240
relations

4427
02:43:34,389 --> 02:43:32,479
sure some will look at that now these

4428
02:43:36,309 --> 02:43:34,399
people will be making a mistake

4429
02:43:37,910 --> 02:43:36,319
others will look for fundamental

4430
02:43:41,590 --> 02:43:37,920
national security

4431
02:43:43,429 --> 02:43:41,600
now what would fall into that area

4432
02:43:45,269 --> 02:43:43,439
look one can make a case that nothing

4433
02:43:46,870 --> 02:43:45,279
does uh

4434
02:43:48,710 --> 02:43:46,880
they have done reverse engineering on

4435
02:43:50,469 --> 02:43:48,720
certain technologies

4436
02:43:52,070 --> 02:43:50,479
obviously we want to know everything

4437
02:43:52,950 --> 02:43:52,080
they know about the propulsion system

4438
02:43:56,150 --> 02:43:52,960
and the energy

4439
02:43:59,510 --> 02:43:56,160
right but there may be some technologies

4440
02:44:01,830 --> 02:43:59,520
that are so potentially dangerous

4441
02:44:02,710 --> 02:44:01,840
that that don't have what we'll call

4442
02:44:06,469 --> 02:44:02,720
clear

4443
02:44:09,269 --> 02:44:06,479
commercial or human benefiting uh of

4444
02:44:11,190 --> 02:44:09,279
aspects that should not be allowed out

4445
02:44:12,950 --> 02:44:11,200
until an appropriate time

4446
02:44:15,750 --> 02:44:12,960
that that would that would be one of

4447
02:44:18,550 --> 02:44:15,760
them um

4448
02:44:19,030 --> 02:44:18,560
if you're blocking the microphone i'm

4449
02:44:21,510 --> 02:44:19,040
sorry

4450
02:44:22,630 --> 02:44:21,520
that would be one of them i'll tell you

4451
02:44:24,950 --> 02:44:22,640
you're okay

4452
02:44:25,910 --> 02:44:24,960
i'm a truth advocate ultimately i

4453
02:44:28,230 --> 02:44:25,920
believe

4454
02:44:29,990 --> 02:44:28,240
that the truth is the antidote to fear

4455
02:44:32,550 --> 02:44:30,000
that lies have been the principle source

4456
02:44:35,750 --> 02:44:32,560
of our dysfunction for decades and that

4457
02:44:37,670 --> 02:44:35,760
you get it all out and let the public

4458
02:44:39,990 --> 02:44:37,680
deal with it but you obviously

4459
02:44:41,510 --> 02:44:40,000
secure and prevent some things from

4460
02:44:42,710 --> 02:44:41,520
suddenly being utilized but it's

4461
02:44:43,429 --> 02:44:42,720
available you make the information

4462
02:44:45,030 --> 02:44:43,439
available

4463
02:44:47,110 --> 02:44:45,040
that would be the best way to go but

4464
02:44:49,590 --> 02:44:47,120
even then you just can't dump it

4465
02:44:51,269 --> 02:44:49,600
you've got to put the stuff out in a

4466
02:44:53,349 --> 02:44:51,279
reasonable amount of time

4467
02:44:54,309 --> 02:44:53,359
and surely the most national security

4468
02:44:56,309 --> 02:44:54,319
concerns

4469
02:44:57,910 --> 02:44:56,319
would be the last stuff in other words

4470
02:45:00,230 --> 02:44:57,920
you work your way toward those and then

4471
02:45:02,550 --> 02:45:00,240
you make decisions about those as the

4472
02:45:04,230 --> 02:45:02,560
public is learning about everything else

4473
02:45:06,389 --> 02:45:04,240
in other words it needs to be

4474
02:45:09,830 --> 02:45:06,399
responsible now am i talking 10 15 years

4475
02:45:12,150 --> 02:45:09,840
hell no i'm talking two years two years

4476
02:45:12,870 --> 02:45:12,160
that's all we need to pretty much go

4477
02:45:14,790 --> 02:45:12,880
through

4478
02:45:16,309 --> 02:45:14,800
the sifting process that we need to go

4479
02:45:18,389 --> 02:45:16,319
through and get out

4480
02:45:20,230 --> 02:45:18,399
the vast majority of what is known in

4481
02:45:22,309 --> 02:45:20,240
the government as well as reviewing

4482
02:45:23,510 --> 02:45:22,319
all of the citizen science research of

4483
02:45:25,910 --> 02:45:23,520
70 years

4484
02:45:26,710 --> 02:45:25,920
and then and this is the payoff i mean

4485
02:45:30,550 --> 02:45:26,720
this is it

4486
02:45:33,030 --> 02:45:30,560
this is the ticket here i i believe

4487
02:45:35,110 --> 02:45:33,040
based on everything i've seen uh

4488
02:45:38,070 --> 02:45:35,120
regarding this phenomena

4489
02:45:38,469 --> 02:45:38,080
that disclosure will happen two years of

4490
02:45:41,030 --> 02:45:38,479
of

4491
02:45:42,070 --> 02:45:41,040
information downloads and and uh

4492
02:45:44,710 --> 02:45:42,080
engaging the issue

4493
02:45:46,070 --> 02:45:44,720
globally in every way open contact the

4494
02:45:46,950 --> 02:45:46,080
et's have been heading for this all

4495
02:45:49,590 --> 02:45:46,960
along

4496
02:45:50,150 --> 02:45:49,600
well okay now open contact i agree

4497
02:45:53,349 --> 02:45:50,160
disclosure

4498
02:45:55,510 --> 02:45:53,359
i agree i agree but now let's go to the

4499
02:45:59,269 --> 02:45:55,520
pandora's box

4500
02:46:02,630 --> 02:45:59,279
all of this happens but then we have

4501
02:46:05,030 --> 02:46:02,640
russia and china and

4502
02:46:06,389 --> 02:46:05,040
let's say do we share this information

4503
02:46:11,030 --> 02:46:06,399
with russia and china

4504
02:46:13,190 --> 02:46:11,040
or does putin come out and say uh

4505
02:46:14,950 --> 02:46:13,200
we're we're in contact but we're in

4506
02:46:17,910 --> 02:46:14,960
contact with another

4507
02:46:19,750 --> 02:46:17,920
uh alien race and civilization and we

4508
02:46:22,950 --> 02:46:19,760
have our own technology

4509
02:46:24,950 --> 02:46:22,960
uh that and our own communication that

4510
02:46:27,110 --> 02:46:24,960
we have been dealing with china could

4511
02:46:29,190 --> 02:46:27,120
say the exact same thing

4512
02:46:31,510 --> 02:46:29,200
mudding the waters and confusing the

4513
02:46:33,349 --> 02:46:31,520
issue and scaring the crap out of the

4514
02:46:36,550 --> 02:46:33,359
rest of the world will there be

4515
02:46:36,870 --> 02:46:36,560
a power grab for this alien technology

4516
02:46:40,150 --> 02:46:36,880
and

4517
02:46:42,230 --> 02:46:40,160
who's got what you're getting to the

4518
02:46:44,230 --> 02:46:42,240
core of the point that

4519
02:46:46,469 --> 02:46:44,240
what's about to take place is the most

4520
02:46:48,630 --> 02:46:46,479
complicated profound

4521
02:46:50,710 --> 02:46:48,640
issue in human history it will challenge

4522
02:46:52,870 --> 02:46:50,720
every world leader to the absolute

4523
02:46:54,710 --> 02:46:52,880
limits of their intellectual and

4524
02:46:55,990 --> 02:46:54,720
emotional capabilities as well as their

4525
02:46:57,429 --> 02:46:56,000
entire administrations

4526
02:46:59,269 --> 02:46:57,439
they have countries that are going to

4527
02:47:02,070 --> 02:46:59,279
say what about us right

4528
02:47:03,590 --> 02:47:02,080
how do we play into this no disclosure

4529
02:47:05,910 --> 02:47:03,600
once disclosure takes place if

4530
02:47:07,429 --> 02:47:05,920
whoever starts it maybe it's biden the

4531
02:47:09,269 --> 02:47:07,439
rest of the world follows suit

4532
02:47:10,550 --> 02:47:09,279
and so putin will immediately confirm it

4533
02:47:13,269 --> 02:47:10,560
so will xi jinping

4534
02:47:14,389 --> 02:47:13,279
and now each one of those nations has a

4535
02:47:15,590 --> 02:47:14,399
issue with their people

4536
02:47:17,349 --> 02:47:15,600
in other words how much are they going

4537
02:47:19,030 --> 02:47:17,359
to tell their people right and so you

4538
02:47:20,150 --> 02:47:19,040
could have a situation where one country

4539
02:47:21,910 --> 02:47:20,160
reveals something

4540
02:47:23,510 --> 02:47:21,920
that another country would prefer be

4541
02:47:25,349 --> 02:47:23,520
classified hey too bad

4542
02:47:26,870 --> 02:47:25,359
i know it's it's going to be a global

4543
02:47:28,870 --> 02:47:26,880
phenomena it's going to be a global

4544
02:47:31,429 --> 02:47:28,880
information uh transference

4545
02:47:31,910 --> 02:47:31,439
uh it's going to be uh not it's going to

4546
02:47:34,150 --> 02:47:31,920
be not

4547
02:47:35,910 --> 02:47:34,160
fully consistent it would be great if

4548
02:47:37,750 --> 02:47:35,920
there was cooperation if the nations

4549
02:47:39,429 --> 02:47:37,760
could come together and instead of

4550
02:47:41,429 --> 02:47:39,439
trying to threaten each other with

4551
02:47:42,550 --> 02:47:41,439
nuclear weapons try to see to come to

4552
02:47:43,429 --> 02:47:42,560
understandings about how they're going

4553
02:47:45,750 --> 02:47:43,439
to deal with this

4554
02:47:47,429 --> 02:47:45,760
because i assure you when the et's

4555
02:47:48,309 --> 02:47:47,439
finally have open context say in two

4556
02:47:49,590 --> 02:47:48,319
years

4557
02:47:50,870 --> 02:47:49,600
you're not going to just pick a couple

4558
02:47:52,150 --> 02:47:50,880
of nations and go hey we're just going

4559
02:47:54,230 --> 02:47:52,160
to deal with them

4560
02:47:55,190 --> 02:47:54,240
they're going to deal with the planet

4561
02:47:56,550 --> 02:47:55,200
they're going to deal in one way or

4562
02:47:57,830 --> 02:47:56,560
another with all of them and deal with a

4563
02:48:00,070 --> 02:47:57,840
civilization

4564
02:48:01,990 --> 02:48:00,080
and so i don't see them favoring one

4565
02:48:03,590 --> 02:48:02,000
nation over another i doubt that

4566
02:48:06,150 --> 02:48:03,600
and so we've got we're gonna have about

4567
02:48:08,870 --> 02:48:06,160
two years to get ready for that

4568
02:48:10,389 --> 02:48:08,880
and that brings us to the ultimate uh i

4569
02:48:13,349 --> 02:48:10,399
think

4570
02:48:14,710 --> 02:48:13,359
question that i've answered from my self

4571
02:48:19,670 --> 02:48:14,720
personally that others

4572
02:48:26,950 --> 02:48:23,590
why why the explosion of e.t

4573
02:48:28,550 --> 02:48:26,960
phenomena in 47 why the crop circles why

4574
02:48:29,590 --> 02:48:28,560
the cattle mutilation why the nuclear

4575
02:48:33,190 --> 02:48:29,600
weapons tampering

4576
02:48:36,150 --> 02:48:33,200
why all of this activity all of this

4577
02:48:37,510 --> 02:48:36,160
why why why is disclosure happening now

4578
02:48:40,630 --> 02:48:37,520
why not 1920

4579
02:48:42,790 --> 02:48:40,640
1885 what's going on

4580
02:48:43,670 --> 02:48:42,800
and my answer to that which i will cover

4581
02:48:45,590 --> 02:48:43,680
in my podcast

4582
02:48:46,870 --> 02:48:45,600
in great depth disclosure wire by the

4583
02:48:50,070 --> 02:48:46,880
way is the name of the podcast

4584
02:48:52,070 --> 02:48:50,080
right on um i believe that it comes down

4585
02:48:55,510 --> 02:48:52,080
to this

4586
02:48:58,550 --> 02:48:55,520
the united state the human race

4587
02:49:01,670 --> 02:48:58,560
starting in 1900

4588
02:49:03,030 --> 02:49:01,680
was on its way to the technological

4589
02:49:04,550 --> 02:49:03,040
exponential growth that we see the

4590
02:49:05,190 --> 02:49:04,560
population growth that we see and so

4591
02:49:06,389 --> 02:49:05,200
forth

4592
02:49:09,429 --> 02:49:06,399
the first half of the century was

4593
02:49:11,190 --> 02:49:09,439
standard behavior huge vast wars

4594
02:49:13,190 --> 02:49:11,200
then we dropped the nuclear bombs which

4595
02:49:15,750 --> 02:49:13,200
was the major

4596
02:49:17,750 --> 02:49:15,760
paradigm change uh and that's when the

4597
02:49:21,910 --> 02:49:17,760
et's had to make their move

4598
02:49:24,070 --> 02:49:21,920
uh and why several reasons one

4599
02:49:26,870 --> 02:49:24,080
we could self-destruct i think the etc

4600
02:49:29,110 --> 02:49:26,880
our self-destruction is not a good thing

4601
02:49:30,230 --> 02:49:29,120
you know they had to have gone through

4602
02:49:31,990 --> 02:49:30,240
it themselves

4603
02:49:33,670 --> 02:49:32,000
i don't know maybe they have maybe they

4604
02:49:35,429 --> 02:49:33,680
haven't but you know we know how we are

4605
02:49:37,190 --> 02:49:35,439
we can't even stand to see a stray dog

4606
02:49:39,110 --> 02:49:37,200
on the side of the road and so

4607
02:49:40,950 --> 02:49:39,120
you know we we we're not happy to watch

4608
02:49:41,349 --> 02:49:40,960
some other country complete and evolve

4609
02:49:44,070 --> 02:49:41,359
into

4610
02:49:45,190 --> 02:49:44,080
chaos we've spent four billion years

4611
02:49:47,190 --> 02:49:45,200
getting to this place

4612
02:49:49,269 --> 02:49:47,200
they've they've been down that road i

4613
02:49:50,870 --> 02:49:49,279
the idea of us having a nuclear war and

4614
02:49:52,150 --> 02:49:50,880
sending ourselves back to the stone age

4615
02:49:52,790 --> 02:49:52,160
i don't think they see that as a good

4616
02:49:55,269 --> 02:49:52,800
thing

4617
02:49:57,990 --> 02:49:55,279
and there's other problems we're now

4618
02:50:01,190 --> 02:49:58,000
engaging multiple technological threads

4619
02:50:02,389 --> 02:50:01,200
genetics ai environmental issues so

4620
02:50:03,990 --> 02:50:02,399
forth all of which

4621
02:50:05,830 --> 02:50:04,000
we're not ready for and we're probably

4622
02:50:07,990 --> 02:50:05,840
going to screw up eight ways to sunday

4623
02:50:09,510 --> 02:50:08,000
we're over our heads all right fine

4624
02:50:11,910 --> 02:50:09,520
there's that

4625
02:50:13,750 --> 02:50:11,920
but there's something else imagine a

4626
02:50:15,349 --> 02:50:13,760
planet like ours

4627
02:50:17,510 --> 02:50:15,359
in a distant part of the gallery often

4628
02:50:18,550 --> 02:50:17,520
the boonies in some nebula

4629
02:50:21,190 --> 02:50:18,560
nobody knows we're there we're

4630
02:50:23,429 --> 02:50:21,200
completely hidden never had a visitor

4631
02:50:24,469 --> 02:50:23,439
and we keep evolving moving along

4632
02:50:27,590 --> 02:50:24,479
getting smarter

4633
02:50:29,349 --> 02:50:27,600
developing tech developing bonds one day

4634
02:50:30,710 --> 02:50:29,359
we're going to do what we're going to do

4635
02:50:32,630 --> 02:50:30,720
even without the ets

4636
02:50:33,750 --> 02:50:32,640
we're going to solve the relative the

4637
02:50:37,110 --> 02:50:33,760
relativity

4638
02:50:39,590 --> 02:50:37,120
barrier to time and space

4639
02:50:41,990 --> 02:50:39,600
we're going to figure out how to move

4640
02:50:43,990 --> 02:50:42,000
outside of the relativity barrier

4641
02:50:45,110 --> 02:50:44,000
and thus become interstellar and we'll

4642
02:50:48,469 --> 02:50:45,120
build interstellar craft

4643
02:50:50,150 --> 02:50:48,479
of course we will and well given you

4644
02:50:52,150 --> 02:50:50,160
know check in our case not necessarily

4645
02:50:53,349 --> 02:50:52,160
every case but in our case yeah you're

4646
02:50:54,870 --> 02:50:53,359
going to take some bombs we're going to

4647
02:50:56,150 --> 02:50:54,880
take some nuclear weapons with you you

4648
02:50:57,510 --> 02:50:56,160
know just in case

4649
02:50:59,190 --> 02:50:57,520
never know you might run across

4650
02:51:01,110 --> 02:50:59,200
something and so

4651
02:51:03,190 --> 02:51:01,120
this totally unknown planet builds some

4652
02:51:05,349 --> 02:51:03,200
interstellar craft put some bombs on it

4653
02:51:07,269 --> 02:51:05,359
and heads off into the galaxy to see

4654
02:51:09,429 --> 02:51:07,279
what it can see

4655
02:51:11,910 --> 02:51:09,439
it is at that instant a legitimate

4656
02:51:12,230 --> 02:51:11,920
threat to every other civilization out

4657
02:51:14,469 --> 02:51:12,240
there

4658
02:51:16,309 --> 02:51:14,479
particularly civilizations which aren't

4659
02:51:18,150 --> 02:51:16,319
developed yet maybe where we are

4660
02:51:19,670 --> 02:51:18,160
300 years ago and up comes the

4661
02:51:20,790 --> 02:51:19,680
earthlings with their interstellar ships

4662
02:51:22,469 --> 02:51:20,800
and hydrogen bombs

4663
02:51:24,070 --> 02:51:22,479
and they're screwing around and blowing

4664
02:51:27,269 --> 02:51:24,080
things up that

4665
02:51:29,269 --> 02:51:27,279
cannot happen

4666
02:51:31,110 --> 02:51:29,279
well we're not often a nebula somewhere

4667
02:51:32,230 --> 02:51:31,120
we are known they've known about us for

4668
02:51:35,269 --> 02:51:32,240
a very long time

4669
02:51:35,910 --> 02:51:35,279
i watch ancient aliens so so here's the

4670
02:51:37,590 --> 02:51:35,920
deal

4671
02:51:39,750 --> 02:51:37,600
if you are an advanced civilization

4672
02:51:40,309 --> 02:51:39,760
there is no way in hell you are going to

4673
02:51:42,469 --> 02:51:40,319
let

4674
02:51:43,750 --> 02:51:42,479
any civilization that finally reaches

4675
02:51:46,150 --> 02:51:43,760
where we are

4676
02:51:47,830 --> 02:51:46,160
to just head on up head on down build

4677
02:51:48,550 --> 02:51:47,840
those starships put the bombs on and

4678
02:51:51,750 --> 02:51:48,560
head on out

4679
02:51:52,389 --> 02:51:51,760
you will intervene right then that's

4680
02:51:54,710 --> 02:51:52,399
when you

4681
02:51:56,710 --> 02:51:54,720
must intervene now i know enough about

4682
02:51:59,590 --> 02:51:56,720
our physics that we are closing in

4683
02:52:00,150 --> 02:51:59,600
on the relativity problem this is not is

4684
02:52:02,550 --> 02:52:00,160
uh

4685
02:52:04,469 --> 02:52:02,560
not not a secret and of course we have

4686
02:52:06,230 --> 02:52:04,479
the bombs god knows

4687
02:52:08,150 --> 02:52:06,240
and so i think the fundamental another

4688
02:52:10,150 --> 02:52:08,160
fundamental reason is is that they have

4689
02:52:11,030 --> 02:52:10,160
to intervene and get into open contact

4690
02:52:13,190 --> 02:52:11,040
with us

4691
02:52:14,150 --> 02:52:13,200
in order to ensure that we do not do

4692
02:52:16,230 --> 02:52:14,160
that

4693
02:52:18,230 --> 02:52:16,240
and therefore i assume we're going to be

4694
02:52:20,870 --> 02:52:18,240
hearing things from them

4695
02:52:21,510 --> 02:52:20,880
about how you can't do that but if you

4696
02:52:23,429 --> 02:52:21,520
want to get

4697
02:52:25,269 --> 02:52:23,439
in bed with us there's some wonderful

4698
02:52:28,469 --> 02:52:25,279
things that can happen for you

4699
02:52:30,150 --> 02:52:28,479
that is the best answer to why we don't

4700
02:52:31,590 --> 02:52:30,160
want you to destroy yourselves but you

4701
02:52:33,590 --> 02:52:31,600
ain't coming out and giving us a trouble

4702
02:52:34,950 --> 02:52:33,600
problem now understand until we have

4703
02:52:37,349 --> 02:52:34,960
those starships

4704
02:52:39,670 --> 02:52:37,359
we are no threat to them we haven't got

4705
02:52:42,230 --> 02:52:39,680
a snowball's chance with them

4706
02:52:44,389 --> 02:52:42,240
they could destroy us like that and

4707
02:52:46,309 --> 02:52:44,399
anybody that thinks they can needs to be

4708
02:52:49,269 --> 02:52:46,319
removed from their position

4709
02:52:50,389 --> 02:52:49,279
in authority all right it's ridiculous

4710
02:52:51,349 --> 02:52:50,399
that means they're completely ignorant

4711
02:52:53,830 --> 02:52:51,359
of physics and science

4712
02:52:55,590 --> 02:52:53,840
so we can't win and and by the way the

4713
02:52:57,190 --> 02:52:55,600
the ttsa guys have referred to this

4714
02:52:58,230 --> 02:52:57,200
repeatedly a number of times as well as

4715
02:53:01,110 --> 02:52:58,240
some of the witnesses

4716
02:53:02,389 --> 02:53:01,120
you can't win right hey you can't win we

4717
02:53:04,309 --> 02:53:02,399
can't beat them okay so

4718
02:53:05,750 --> 02:53:04,319
what does that mean well you move

4719
02:53:08,710 --> 02:53:05,760
forward as best you can

4720
02:53:10,630 --> 02:53:08,720
but don't act like you can beat them a

4721
02:53:12,630 --> 02:53:10,640
trillion dollar space force

4722
02:53:14,389 --> 02:53:12,640
putting defensive weapons on the moon

4723
02:53:15,269 --> 02:53:14,399
forget about it spend the money on the

4724
02:53:18,309 --> 02:53:15,279
poor

4725
02:53:19,830 --> 02:53:18,319
so but once we get the starships we can

4726
02:53:21,429 --> 02:53:19,840
and so the intervention has to happen

4727
02:53:23,429 --> 02:53:21,439
before then that's another reason why i

4728
02:53:24,630 --> 02:53:23,439
give it a couple of years

4729
02:53:26,469 --> 02:53:24,640
they're just gonna we want to get this

4730
02:53:29,910 --> 02:53:26,479
out of the way and so

4731
02:53:32,070 --> 02:53:29,920
disclosure open contact an agreement

4732
02:53:32,950 --> 02:53:32,080
get rid of the nukes all right by the

4733
02:53:34,230 --> 02:53:32,960
way that's what we gotta do gotta get

4734
02:53:37,429 --> 02:53:34,240
rid of the nukes

4735
02:53:38,389 --> 02:53:37,439
some starships you keep the nukes you're

4736
02:53:39,590 --> 02:53:38,399
not going to get the stars

4737
02:53:41,110 --> 02:53:39,600
you can build them we'll blow them up

4738
02:53:41,990 --> 02:53:41,120
you're never going to leave the planet

4739
02:53:43,910 --> 02:53:42,000
with those

4740
02:53:45,510 --> 02:53:43,920
you can go to venus all day long you're

4741
02:53:48,150 --> 02:53:45,520
not leaving the solar system

4742
02:53:49,670 --> 02:53:48,160
right it's so obvious uh jimmy that yeah

4743
02:53:51,429 --> 02:53:49,680
i can't believe it's not being discussed

4744
02:53:52,389 --> 02:53:51,439
in greater detail that's my view that's

4745
02:53:54,550 --> 02:53:52,399
the why

4746
02:53:56,150 --> 02:53:54,560
of all of this and we just happen to be

4747
02:53:58,710 --> 02:53:56,160
on stage

4748
02:53:59,429 --> 02:53:58,720
when the play is conducted we are so

4749
02:54:01,670 --> 02:53:59,439
lucky

4750
02:54:02,630 --> 02:54:01,680
think about it what are the odds in all

4751
02:54:04,309 --> 02:54:02,640
of the human history

4752
02:54:07,110 --> 02:54:04,319
that you and i are going to be on the

4753
02:54:09,429 --> 02:54:07,120
stage when this moment comes

4754
02:54:10,790 --> 02:54:09,439
i wish stan friedman and so many others

4755
02:54:13,510 --> 02:54:10,800
were were here

4756
02:54:14,790 --> 02:54:13,520
for this moment because i i feel it uh

4757
02:54:17,750 --> 02:54:14,800
listen i've got uh

4758
02:54:19,510 --> 02:54:17,760
just uh five minutes left um i want to

4759
02:54:22,150 --> 02:54:19,520
ask you a question i've never asked you

4760
02:54:30,550 --> 02:54:27,349
okay you nervous yeah look at your face

4761
02:54:32,710 --> 02:54:30,560
have you ever seen a ufo no

4762
02:54:34,469 --> 02:54:32,720
and why i think i saw something unusual

4763
02:54:36,070 --> 02:54:34,479
at a one of the laughlin conferences

4764
02:54:36,389 --> 02:54:36,080
were out there on the deck by the river

4765
02:54:37,830 --> 02:54:36,399
and

4766
02:54:39,510 --> 02:54:37,840
there was something hanging out there

4767
02:54:41,590 --> 02:54:39,520
and we watched it for a while

4768
02:54:42,630 --> 02:54:41,600
uh i have i have no idea what it was but

4769
02:54:44,150 --> 02:54:42,640
they said that they would

4770
02:54:45,910 --> 02:54:44,160
typically show up for the laughlin

4771
02:54:49,590 --> 02:54:45,920
conference so but

4772
02:54:51,349 --> 02:54:49,600
really exciting no contact no uh

4773
02:54:52,630 --> 02:54:51,359
none as that is not the reason i'm

4774
02:54:55,750 --> 02:54:52,640
involved in this no

4775
02:54:58,870 --> 02:54:55,760
that's my next question so a life uh

4776
02:55:02,230 --> 02:54:58,880
a career a you know total commitment

4777
02:55:05,990 --> 02:55:02,240
um but you haven't seen

4778
02:55:08,950 --> 02:55:06,000
why i mean why why the commitment

4779
02:55:11,590 --> 02:55:08,960
why why the dedication well because look

4780
02:55:14,150 --> 02:55:11,600
without getting into my background

4781
02:55:14,950 --> 02:55:14,160
i am a disclosure activist okay that's

4782
02:55:16,469 --> 02:55:14,960
what i am

4783
02:55:18,230 --> 02:55:16,479
or an exopolitical activist but

4784
02:55:20,230 --> 02:55:18,240
disclosure activist yeah

4785
02:55:22,150 --> 02:55:20,240
i do i have a lobby registration people

4786
02:55:24,309 --> 02:55:22,160
call me a lobbyist i'm an activist

4787
02:55:25,670 --> 02:55:24,319
that means many things but really you

4788
02:55:28,710 --> 02:55:25,680
know what i am

4789
02:55:31,349 --> 02:55:28,720
i am an anti-war activist

4790
02:55:32,469 --> 02:55:31,359
disguised as a disclosure activist are

4791
02:55:37,349 --> 02:55:32,479
you following me here i

4792
02:55:39,349 --> 02:55:37,359
am the i grew up with the vietnam war

4793
02:55:41,349 --> 02:55:39,359
i was born because my father was sent

4794
02:55:44,230 --> 02:55:41,359
home from the pacific when they dropped

4795
02:55:48,550 --> 02:55:44,240
the bombs on japan that's how i got born

4796
02:55:50,790 --> 02:55:48,560
nuclear child we have to end war

4797
02:55:52,630 --> 02:55:50,800
and i became convinced some time ago

4798
02:55:54,309 --> 02:55:52,640
that the best shot we had was to end

4799
02:55:57,670 --> 02:55:54,319
this truth embargo

4800
02:56:00,070 --> 02:55:57,680
to bring about disclosure ultimately

4801
02:56:01,990 --> 02:56:00,080
the et intervention are not intervention

4802
02:56:03,349 --> 02:56:02,000
but et content open

4803
02:56:05,670 --> 02:56:03,359
and i think the world would then be

4804
02:56:06,309 --> 02:56:05,680
possible to realize we have to finally

4805
02:56:09,510 --> 02:56:06,319
end this

4806
02:56:10,950 --> 02:56:09,520
10 000 year cycle of endless violence

4807
02:56:13,590 --> 02:56:10,960
and war

4808
02:56:15,110 --> 02:56:13,600
it's it's everybody wants peace which

4809
02:56:17,110 --> 02:56:15,120
means we have to deal with the issue of

4810
02:56:17,750 --> 02:56:17,120
how how come so many psychopaths get

4811
02:56:20,550 --> 02:56:17,760
into

4812
02:56:21,349 --> 02:56:20,560
uh uh leadership roles why are so many

4813
02:56:24,070 --> 02:56:21,359
psychos running

4814
02:56:26,469 --> 02:56:24,080
whatever the point is it is it's my

4815
02:56:28,710 --> 02:56:26,479
contribution to the anti-war movement

4816
02:56:29,990 --> 02:56:28,720
which if you if you you gotta admit has

4817
02:56:32,070 --> 02:56:30,000
never really succeeded

4818
02:56:33,510 --> 02:56:32,080
i mean we've never stopped having wars

4819
02:56:34,790 --> 02:56:33,520
in 10 000 years

4820
02:56:36,790 --> 02:56:34,800
that doesn't mean we shouldn't try

4821
02:56:38,870 --> 02:56:36,800
doesn't mean we didn't lessen it

4822
02:56:40,550 --> 02:56:38,880
but the point is is that we no longer

4823
02:56:42,870 --> 02:56:40,560
have the option

4824
02:56:44,870 --> 02:56:42,880
of having a major war we can never have

4825
02:56:46,950 --> 02:56:44,880
a third world war except

4826
02:56:49,110 --> 02:56:46,960
that the the bulletin atomic scientists

4827
02:56:49,590 --> 02:56:49,120
said we're closer than ever 100 seconds

4828
02:56:51,429 --> 02:56:49,600
from

4829
02:56:53,349 --> 02:56:51,439
midnight because the world is so

4830
02:56:54,469 --> 02:56:53,359
unstable and so nuclear war is still on

4831
02:56:56,230 --> 02:56:54,479
the table

4832
02:56:58,309 --> 02:56:56,240
and so that's why i'm in it i'm an

4833
02:57:00,389 --> 02:56:58,319
anti-war activist

4834
02:57:02,550 --> 02:57:00,399
and i saw this is clearly the way we can

4835
02:57:05,830 --> 02:57:02,560
finally resolve this

4836
02:57:09,269 --> 02:57:05,840
right and also because

4837
02:57:11,269 --> 02:57:09,279
it's not about it's not a it's not about

4838
02:57:13,269 --> 02:57:11,279
the et's are here

4839
02:57:15,030 --> 02:57:13,279
it's about the he t's and us could be

4840
02:57:17,190 --> 02:57:15,040
engaged

4841
02:57:19,190 --> 02:57:17,200
right i mean they could have come left

4842
02:57:21,030 --> 02:57:19,200
crop circles told some cattle

4843
02:57:22,309 --> 02:57:21,040
you know abducted some people and left

4844
02:57:24,630 --> 02:57:22,319
you know it's like hey we're done

4845
02:57:25,510 --> 02:57:24,640
thank you so bye no they kept staying

4846
02:57:28,389 --> 02:57:25,520
around

4847
02:57:29,190 --> 02:57:28,399
because ultimately that's what's coming

4848
02:57:31,990 --> 02:57:29,200
right

4849
02:57:33,110 --> 02:57:32,000
so uh if an e.t walked into my room i

4850
02:57:35,110 --> 02:57:33,120
would be like okay

4851
02:57:36,870 --> 02:57:35,120
that's how are you how's everything

4852
02:57:38,389 --> 02:57:36,880
going but it's not like i'm

4853
02:57:40,790 --> 02:57:38,399
i think i'm going to be profoundly moved

4854
02:57:43,349 --> 02:57:40,800
i've known they were real forever

4855
02:57:44,469 --> 02:57:43,359
since i was a teenager but it doesn't

4856
02:57:47,590 --> 02:57:44,479
mean anything

4857
02:57:50,150 --> 02:57:47,600
unless we actually engage them openly so

4858
02:57:52,230 --> 02:57:50,160
we can change our society all right

4859
02:57:54,389 --> 02:57:52,240
it's our best chance to change our

4860
02:57:56,870 --> 02:57:54,399
society at the degree and level

4861
02:57:57,429 --> 02:57:56,880
required to avoid the calamities we're

4862
02:57:59,349 --> 02:57:57,439
facing

4863
02:58:01,190 --> 02:57:59,359
i assure you the green new deal is not

4864
02:58:03,990 --> 02:58:01,200
enough right

4865
02:58:04,790 --> 02:58:04,000
everything on the table is not enough

4866
02:58:07,590 --> 02:58:04,800
our problems

4867
02:58:09,349 --> 02:58:07,600
are overwhelming right we can't even get

4868
02:58:10,870 --> 02:58:09,359
rid of the nukes we've had 30 years

4869
02:58:13,910 --> 02:58:10,880
since the end of the cold war

4870
02:58:15,030 --> 02:58:13,920
and so what's enough et disclosure and

4871
02:58:16,870 --> 02:58:15,040
open contact

4872
02:58:18,150 --> 02:58:16,880
and okay but why would you even say that

4873
02:58:20,469 --> 02:58:18,160
because evidence

4874
02:58:22,309 --> 02:58:20,479
we've been amassing for 70 years points

4875
02:58:23,910 --> 02:58:22,319
exactly to that

4876
02:58:25,910 --> 02:58:23,920
now some people don't see that because

4877
02:58:28,710 --> 02:58:25,920
they're researchers they focus on a case

4878
02:58:30,469 --> 02:58:28,720
a narrow area no problem sure do that my

4879
02:58:33,190 --> 02:58:30,479
job is to see the whole picture my job

4880
02:58:34,950 --> 02:58:33,200
is to try to see the total context

4881
02:58:36,230 --> 02:58:34,960
and and try to understand where the hell

4882
02:58:39,510 --> 02:58:36,240
it's going and why

4883
02:58:40,550 --> 02:58:39,520
i've got exactly 45 seconds left about a

4884
02:58:43,670 --> 02:58:40,560
minute

4885
02:58:45,830 --> 02:58:43,680
tell us really quickly disclosure wire

4886
02:58:47,030 --> 02:58:45,840
uh when is the first episode where can

4887
02:58:49,590 --> 02:58:47,040
everybody go

4888
02:58:50,230 --> 02:58:49,600
disclosure wire podcast will start soon

4889
02:58:53,110 --> 02:58:50,240
maybe seven

4890
02:58:54,630 --> 02:58:53,120
eight days uh my website is paradigm

4891
02:58:56,150 --> 02:58:54,640
research group dot org

4892
02:58:57,910 --> 02:58:56,160
tons of material there on everything

4893
02:58:59,590 --> 02:58:57,920
we've talked about

4894
02:59:02,550 --> 02:58:59,600
i have a twitter account paradigm

4895
02:59:04,070 --> 02:59:02,560
research group i welcome all followers

4896
02:59:05,830 --> 02:59:04,080
right you're only as important as your

4897
02:59:07,030 --> 02:59:05,840
twitter followers my friend that's the

4898
02:59:10,070 --> 02:59:07,040
way it works now

4899
02:59:11,830 --> 02:59:10,080
live with it so yeah uh that's it it's

4900
02:59:13,190 --> 02:59:11,840
been a thrill i hope we don't wait so

4901
02:59:15,110 --> 02:59:13,200
long between the next uh

4902
02:59:17,429 --> 02:59:15,120
before the next interview yeah thank you

4903
02:59:19,670 --> 02:59:17,439
so much stephen and i've seen the studio

4904
02:59:20,710 --> 02:59:19,680
everybody it's it's absolutely

4905
02:59:22,150 --> 02:59:20,720
unbelievable

4906
02:59:24,150 --> 02:59:22,160
and i look forward to it let us know

4907
02:59:25,750 --> 02:59:24,160
when it comes out we'll do

4908
02:59:27,830 --> 02:59:25,760
everything that we can to support you

4909
02:59:29,510 --> 02:59:27,840
stephen thank you so much be safe out

4910
02:59:31,590 --> 02:59:29,520
there it's a crazy world

4911
02:59:32,790 --> 02:59:31,600
you be safe too my friend stephen

4912
02:59:35,110 --> 02:59:32,800
bassett just

4913
02:59:36,790 --> 02:59:35,120
went polled a poll i've got to get out

4914
02:59:39,750 --> 02:59:36,800
of here i got to read credits

4915
02:59:40,870 --> 02:59:39,760
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4916
02:59:43,750 --> 02:59:40,880
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4917
02:59:47,190 --> 02:59:43,760
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4918
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4919
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4920
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4921
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4922
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4923
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4924
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4925
03:00:04,389 --> 03:00:02,760
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4926
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4927
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4928
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4929
03:00:11,990 --> 03:00:10,160
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4930
03:00:13,510 --> 03:00:12,000
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4931
03:00:14,230 --> 03:00:13,520
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4932
03:00:15,910 --> 03:00:14,240
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4933
03:00:17,510 --> 03:00:15,920
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4934
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4935
03:00:21,349 --> 03:00:19,279
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4936
03:00:21,990 --> 03:00:21,359
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4937
03:00:24,630 --> 03:00:22,000
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4938
03:00:26,309 --> 03:00:24,640
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4939
03:00:43,770 --> 03:00:26,319
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4940
03:00:43,780 --> 03:00:50,830
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4941
03:01:19,830 --> 03:00:52,800
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